Jim Sinclair: 2013 Crisis To Trump 2008

jim sinclairJim Sinclair sent out an email alert to subscribers over the weekend warning that the fall of 2013 may begin the great banking crisis that the metals community has been anticipating since 2007, and that the US will likely not fully recover from the coming collapse until 2018-2020!

“Historians will certainly consider the 2008 crisis as a warning shot before that of 2013.
End 2013, financial impact: collapse of financial markets especially in the US and Japan. Banks can no longer be saved by the states and BAIL-Ins are put in place!

Sinclair’s full alert is below:

War Bird

From Jim Sinclair:

On the fundamental view, I have directed you to Global European Anticipation Bulletin. I find no other source with which I agree more than GEAB. The following demands our consideration.

 

The GEAB site is

http://www.leap2020.eu/

GEAB shockingly says, “Historians will certainly consider the 2008 crisis as a warning shot before that of 2013. All of the world’s regions won’t be a can be summarized as the following affected the same way but all will suffer. According to LEAP/ E2020 the stages of this second crisis  as follows:

 

-end 2013, financial impact: collapse of financial markets especially in the US and Japan. Banks can no longer be saved by the states and BAIL-Ins are put in place;

 

-end 2013 / 2014 spreading to the real economy: The financial impasse causes / reveals a major world recession and the reduction of international trade;

 

-2014, social impact: The economic deterioration causes unemployment to explode, in the United States the dollar’s decline lowers the standard of living, riots mushroom everywhere;

 

-2014 political crisis: the governments of the most affected countries are under fire for their handling of the crisis, forced resignations and early elections are expected, if not coups;

 

-2014-2015, international management of the crisis: together Euroland and the BRICS impose a new international monetary system and lay down the basis of new global governance;

 

-2015: The least affected regions have exited the crisis definitively;

 

-2018: It will take the United States, the United Kingdom and Japan five years to purge themselves of the crisis with, ultimately, a greatly reduced standard of living and a considerable loss of global influence (resulting from their refusal to participate in the re-casting of global governance on new bases).”

 

I agree totally with the steps. My timing on the final step is more 2020 than 2018 with the USA, GB and Japan taking seven years to purge the criminals that have gotten us to this point via OTC derivative frauds.

 

I will take this discussion further this weekend, as this is enough for you to chew on today.

 

Print this article out and post it to your bulletin board for constant reference.

 

The Chairman of the Federal Reserve has by good chance selected the exact right date to retire. I pity the next victim to serve.

 

Gold is for savings. Fiat currency is for transactions only.

 

Sincerely,
Jim

 

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Comments

  1. Oh no, not another Jim Sinclair prediction.
    If he states this fall may be the start of the great banking crisis, that means it won’t be. Sorry, you’re going to have to wait quite a few more years yet if you think there is another banking crisis around the corner, Mr Sinclair.

    • The corporation of the United States is FAR from being broke. Fact is the corporation has a LOT of $MONEY. Read these articles and learn the truth. We are being liked to “again!’
      http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2010/05/cafr-walter-burien-biggest-game-in-town.html
      http://www.cafr1.com/
      Possibly someone can get this info to Jim Sinclair so he can send the truth out. We need to start taking action to save our country before it is too late! There is no rule of law and we may have already set on the sideline too long.

    • @sam520  The trouble with Walter Burien’s CAFR analysis can best be demonstrated by asking the question:  “How can Detroit be broke when it’s CAFR assets would indicate it is in fine financial shape?  Give the CAFR assets to the pensioners… if you can.  Those assets are more than already spoken for and encumbered… they aren’t just some “Obama’s Stash” waiting to be tapped.  Kinda reminds me of NESARA and its ilk.

    • sam520 … “The corporation of the United States is FAR from being broke.”
       
      If you BELIEVE that credit-stamps (and their evil-twin, Bonds) ARE ‘money’, then sure, governments are financially viable eternally. But, in allusion to a more familiar quote … ‘Governments can spend, until other people’s stuff is all ‘bought’ up and no one can afford to ‘buy’ it back’.

      “CAFR assets would indicate it is in fine financial shape?  … Those assets are more than already spoken for”

      Much of the CAFR assets are those decrepit shell buildings we see in the raft of photos illustrating urban blight. The biggest problem with those assets is that they all depend on economic conditions for yield. In a credit based economy wholly dependent on ever-expanding borrowing, brought to a catatonic state by Debt Saturation, none of those assets CAN perform. Even ‘free money’ used a couple times for illusory ‘profiteering’ by elites on tenuously inflating ‘equity’, sinks right back into the black hole of debt amortization and sits uselessly in bank vaults while circulation dwindles, leaving LESS for PRODUCTIVE purposes.

      “Although historians do not advertise the fact, a lot of pension funds went bankrupt in the 1930’s, and the remaining ones had to scale back the amounts they had contracted to pay to their pensioners. Economists failed to offer an explanation for this universal phenomenon. Yet the explanation is clear: the accumulated capital of the pension funds was badly impaired, and in some cases completely wiped out, by the falling interest rate structure. Exactly the same causes are operating right now, (2010) and exactly the same effects will follow. The only difference is the larger scale of capital destruction in the present episode.” –Antal Fekete

  2. The World is falling apart and the Shit is ready to HTF and he says Gold Is For Savings. I’m sorry Jim but my PM’s are for Security and Survival, Nothing More Nothing less. Keep Stacking

    • Totally agreed. Yet Sinclair is still in the box. There is something more uplifting as a country by going to: miracles&inspirations.com/news.htlm
      and see for yourself. The rest of the world wants us to get rid of the federal reserve, setting up a plan to have World debt jubilee, turn US into a Rupublic, only if we get rid pf the federal reserve.?

      Who is down with getting rid of the thieves?
      Making a 80% gold standard, 20% other commodities.
      Yet other countries need to calculate their stand in the world before China (September. 2013)
      DEBT JUBILEE

      END THE FEDERAL RESERVE

      US IS NOW A REPUBLIC

      GOING BACK TO A GOLD/OTHER COMMODITIES. BACKED DOLLAR.

  3. Did I just see Sinclair endorse Global Governance???? If he’s embracing THAT … my ABSOLUTE WORST ‘lingering feelings’ will be resolutely confirmed! Say it ain’t so Doc, say it ain’t so!

    • @PatFields    Good news.  It ain’t so.  Link is to full article on GEAB website.  Sinclair was referring to regional solutions that the BRICS and Euroland develop that will not include the U.S. or Japan.
       
      http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-76-is-available-Alert-for-the-second-half-of-2013-Global-systemic-crisis-II-second-devastating-explosion-social_a14266.html

    • UglyDog … “Sinclair was referring to regional solutions”

      Yeah … which GOES ON to state (however off-handedly) that those who REFUSE to align themselves in that unified ‘solution’, will suffer much longer and worse recoveries as a consequence. All of which STILL alludes endorsement of the ‘regional solution’ on a broad scope … ie Global.

      The SOLE global solution that I could POSSIBLY undersign is conversion of all banknote currency to an equitable physical form, so as to maintain present real purchase-power and numerical superstructures to each banknote unit, while abandoning the accruing interest, by which banknotes are presently annihilating economies across the world.

      Sinclair has NEVER even HINTED at doing away with the banknote scheme, and he’s not the only ‘expert’ to prove mute on that point (or go curiously silent after initial such ‘noises’). MANY of these ‘experts’ rhetorically rail boldly in defense of the metals … but to what TRULY useful END? So, they can eventually pronounce the time to trade them for stacks of paper STAMPS, or negotiate CREDIT balances with them? I say … A POX ON ALL THEIR HOUSES.

  4.  All I see here is another prediction, by someone much wealthier and smarter than I am, agreeing with something others are saying. Since it supports my world view then I am happy with that. If it turns out to be another ‘too early’ prediction then that’s cool too. No need for you guys to get your panties in a wad just because Doc posts another picture of Jim.

  5. The patient (system) is dead, it just doesn’t know it yet.

  6. The morale of the story is you cannot make predictions that cause people to lose 20% and 40% of their investment especially when you are one of the world authorities on the subject and not expect people to be upset.  Now when I hear Sinclair making predictions, well it doesn’t carry near the weight it did a year or two ago.

    I still hope he’s correct and just off by 6 or 9 months. That will greatly change my opinion of his predictions.

  7. Relax people… Jimmy just trying to stay relevant.

  8. If you’ve ever personally seen deep hopeless poverty for yourselves in a 3rd world country, you would be doing more to prepare for a crash of epic magnitude to avoid that for your families.
    Otherwise, live your fantasy life fast before reality crushes your false perceptions.
    When someone like Jim speaks these things I listen. Would you be too stupid or arrogant to think he’s absolutely wrong? there’s reasons he’s putting his character in public to say such things. Much like if a surgeon says you need a new heart, are you going to ignore him or re-diagnose your ailments?  Obviously at your own risk in doing so.
    Plenty of other talented, intelligent and respected people are saying the same things. The new American dream is preparing for the next bubble.

    • +1 That, Cianod0on! 
      Sinclair has been made a goof recently, by the cartel, (maybe intentionally?) but he keeps coming BACK to warn. 
      However, I need to check out PatFields’s allegations… sounds bad… and I trust Pat more than Jim!

    • Having been to two of Jim’s Q&A sessions, I’ve found them enormously useful.  He does say things in those sessions that TPTB would definitely not want to see on a public website.  Having run an internet radio network dedicated to counteracting the MSM propaganda stream for a few years, I do understand the fine line the man has to walk.  He has business and personal interests they could very easily damage hugely, were he to be considered too big a mouth…
      I would also observe that Jim is not the only one to make predictions that have not panned out in relationship to timing.  But, do understand that the cartel’s MO is to do everything in their power to discredit gold as a goto for financial survival.  And, one of their acknowledged strategies in this pursuit is to act against the consensus of predictions in the markets they manipulate.  Sinclair, whatever else you may want to say about him, is one of the more experienced and knowledgeable minds in our business. PERIOD.  Those of you who have taken the man’s advice have not lost money.  He has not said to sell your gold recently, if ever, that I can recall.  He has said to ACCUMULATE it and hold it.  You have no loss unless you did something he has not suggested you do.  Namely, SELL IT!  You have no loss until, and unless you sell.  Now, if you are upset that the value of the metals you are holding is less than your cost of acquisition, then you are a trader.  Jim does not suggest trading.  If you do trade, that puts YOU squarely in the gunsights of the bankers that want to strip you of everything you have right down to your very LIFE.  Stackers, on the other hand, are IMMUNE to the banker’s train robbery tricks.
      One day, the US Dollar is going to die.  And with it, a lot of people will suffer enormously.  Give the man some credit for trying to avert the coming tragedy of the many at the hands of the criminal few that determine the paper prices of your physical holdings.  If you can’t stand the volatility of the markets, then sell down to your comfort level and forget about the metals.   Jim Sinclair is NOT YOUR ENEMY.  The enemy is the BANKING CARTEL.  TRY TO REMEMBER THAT!
       

  9. He’s right. GEAB was one source I used to see the launch 11 years ago. 
    Oct 8th.  New Hundred dolla bill.
    http://usawatchdog.com/complete-wipeout-of-all-debt-coming-bix-weir/

    • Bix Weir has lost all credibility to me when he guaranteed Ron Paul was going to be president.  And as for Sinclair Id rather be years early than a second too late.

    • @Blankone:
      I do not remember a “guarantee” but he was so sure RP could pull it out that it was an every day type thing. 
      RP got hosed by the republican establishment, to be sure! Following it as I did, the repubix definitely 
      FEARED RON PAUL!!!

    • Sadly, I think Ron Paul was controlled opposition.  I found it enormously disheartening to learn that Peter Thiel, the founder of PayPal and the head of the Steering Committee for Bilderberg was Ron Paul’s largest campaign contributor in his Presidential bid.  Ron Paul was, in my opinion, a steam valve for the constitutionalist loyals and the hard-money camp to attach to and feel as if their concerns had representation in government.  Just like Glen Beck was put in place to appease the Tea Party grassroots with a show on a mainstream network that appeared to “hear’ the voice of the people.
      Beck, Ron Paul and others were deliberately and carefully placed in their positions on the stage before us to play for us and keep us quiescent.

      “The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies… is a foolish idea. Instead the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound change or extensive shifts in policy. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years, if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same policies.” — Professor Carroll Quigley, author of Tragedy and Hope.
       

    • @Sovereign Economist
      I for one do not doubt Dr. Paul’s sincerity, but a quick and short infusion of funds could have the desired effect for the repubix’s plans. RP won enough states that he could have challenged at the convention, but the romney backers (repubix) held up one in court so as to deny him the clout at the convention. BIX Weir was all excited, and all that evaporated. 
      Your point is noted… 

  10. People ofcourse this doesnt end well(except for PM holders) the question is when not if. In my opinion the shit hits the fan on Obamas watch. Jim is right, his timing is often not.

  11. this a the obama needs to go since he in support of the federal reserve system.

    Miracles&inspiration.com

    states. Is this true?

    Other countries need to add up their dept, see how much they are worth, resources, skills, blah blah?

    Before China makes their announcement.

    It is now a global thing.

    Keep Stacking!!! (Silver)

  12. I can’t see any huge crisis developing this year.  The delay of the Obama Care employer mandate could in fact push back any really big disaster by at least 6 if not 12 months.  Why the employee mandate was not also pushed back by the same amount of time remains a mystery.  Regardless, the time between spring 2014 and summer 2015 looks to me to be the most ripe for a financial system melt-down.  Unfortunately for the prediction business, there are about a million pieces of data to be considered when drawing this graph, so getting it right is damn-near impossible.  Only God knows for sure and He is not known for sharing his knowledge, particularly in regards to future happenings.  My worst fear is that the US and world financial system collapses on Obama’s watch and he uses that as an excuse to remain in power, as FDR did with WW II.

  13. One ringy dingy two ringy dingys.  Is this the party to whom I am speaking? said Ernestine.  The phone call is into the near term Ed. I think you are correct.  Spain has gobbled up 97% of its social security funds “To invest in Government Bonds’  Thus stealing the pensioneers long saved funds to pay present bills and stave off the inevitable collapse of Spain.  But never underestimate the power of the criminal politicians in Spain to continue stealing from the people to support their completely bankrupt regime

    Three ringy dingys.  Blythe Masters will not be sanctioned by the Feds for her part of the oil price rigging scheme according to WSJ  It will only costJPM $410 million, $63 million of which will go the to a Calif Power regulatory entity. The rest goes to the US treasury.  Nice work if you can get it.  JPM makes tens of billions of this scam.  The Government makes $350 million, plus the taxes on the profits earned during the scam period. The energy-starved homies in the ‘vil get dick.

    4 ringy dingys  The last bit of intel.  The Federal government has been raiding the special $1.7 TRILLION 401K fund set aside for Federal government employees and veterans retirees.  This started a couple of years ago; reached 25% of this fund last year and is now nearly complete in its theft of these funds.
    What are they used for?  To fund the government operations without breaking the debt ceiling.  We will see the debt ceiling dealt with once this entire $1.7 trillion is gone. It will probably happen later this year or early next, depending on how quickly the funds can be fully depleted.
    The pensioneers will be paid with 2.5% US treasury bonds.  The inflation rate is well over that and any further funds are going to be siphoned off to further fund the bankrupt government spending.  Good luck for the 401K fund to ever be solvent again.
    Here is the oxymoron for the day.
      Safe Secure investments in Government Bonds. 
    Good luck with that when rates hit 7.5%
    Emphasis on moron
     

    • You probably read this already but if you didn’t.
      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-22/sec-warns-prepare-repo-defaults
       
      Repos are a $7tr universe approximately across the US, Europe and Japan.
      most of this $7tr of repos is not captured in reported balance sheets, i.e. it is not included in the above $77tr figure of commercial bank assets.
       
      we assume that around $700bn is accounted via existing reporting of net repos in banks’ balance sheets, then under the revised Basle proposal which forces reporting of total gross rather than net exposures, the Exposure Measure would increase by more than $6tr.
       
      At a time of rising ‘fails’, rising leveraged-carry-trades, and no real end in sight for Fed intervention, a repo default contagion could indeed be the self-inflicted wound to bring down the risk-markets in spite of Fed liquidity.
       
      Sounds like the banks need some more capital against these positions.  The problem is that the good collateral is extinct.   These idiots have been marking 80-90% of these positions with government securities (bonds) that have been taking a hit since rates have been going up.  What a freaking mess.  Can we just have the system blow up already!

    • “Can we just have the system blow up already!”
       
      While that would be nice, we can’t have that.  The reason being that every great beast that dies goes into a series of final moves with much flailing of limbs, snapping of jaws, and lashing of tail.  This is what we are seeing now… death throes.  It ain’t pretty but it sure as hell IS descriptive!

    •  Yeah, AG,those Spanish government bonds are gonna be worth bupkis when that government and / or the euro goes TU.  I sure what a lot of that good stuff in my retirement portfolio.  NOT!  If I did, they would already be in there!  lol
       
      “JPM makes tens of billions of this scam.”
       
      Do we know this for sure?  It would be typical of these banksters for sure but how can the actual amount be figured?
       
      “The Federal government has been raiding the special $1.7 TRILLION 401K fund set aside for Federal government employees and veterans retirees.”
       
      One WOULD think that a federal lawsuit would be launched to stop this kind of theft.  Is this one of those under-the-table sweetheart deals with lots of extra goodies for the willing workers if they don’t object?
       
      “We will see the debt ceiling dealt with once this entire $1.7 trillion is gone. It will probably happen later this year or early next, depending on how quickly the funds can be fully depleted.”
       
      Hard to say but it could make for a very interesting in Sept / Oct is they go through this money faster than they suspect.  If they do, it would not be a 1st.
       
      “The pensioneers will be paid with 2.5% US treasury bonds.”
       
      Oh, whoopie-do.  Fake assets in exchange for real ones.  Typical.
       
      “The inflation rate is well over that and any further funds are going to be siphoned off to further fund the bankrupt government spending.  Good luck for the 401K fund to ever be solvent again.”
       
      It sure as hell is.  If the info on ShadowStats is true, and I believe that it is, REAL inflation is now in the area of 9%… more than triple what these “amazing” bonds are paying.  Talk about going broke fast, even if they do not default at some point.
       
      “Here is the oxymoron for the day.  Safe Secure investments in Government Bonds.  Good luck with that when rates hit 7.5%.  Emphasis on moron.”
       
      Yep, or even the historical norm of about 5%.  That would gut the “value” of this debt paper.  Maybe they could throw in some Detroit muni bonds as a “sweetener”?  (cough, gag)

  14. @A
    insightful. Are those your own thoughts , or is there a reference available ?
    cheers

  15. One thing in the way, if people in this country toss out the current government and the federal reserve and nullify all debt we have an out.

    • My plan for that involves moving all US Gov debt to the Fed’s balance sheet and then ending the Fed.  Debt?  What debt?  lol

  16. Skiddy 
    If your question is posed to me— the WSJ today reported the results of the Fed charges against JPM and Blythe, the amount and where the fund were sent.  The Spanish government theft of the social security plans was reported in several places including ZH and Harvey O.  The removal of federal 401k plans to help fund the government and prevent hitting the debt ceiling was reported in January 2013 bu t has been going on for well over a year. The link in on Ann Barnhardt’s site and I think the reporting source was the NY Post. I was passing on the details along with my editorial comments. My biggest concern is not if but when the UST 10 yr rate goes to its 230 year mean and beyond, with the resulting tripling of interest payments. I think this could happen as rates rise and the fed is forced to buy most if not all of the debt including recurring roll over debt  That’s a total of $4 trillion this year.  That is probably a large percentage of the entire soveriegn debt in the world. Most of the other sovereign debts in Europe are 4-6%.  japan will probably see 2-3% interest rate soon enough and China pays something on the order of 6% or so I recall

  17. All predictions are bogus. Humankind has demonstrated a relentless compulsion to try to predict future events, and an overwhelming track record of failure in doing so.
     
    The GEAB information quoted is nothing but gibberish nonsense. No wonder Jim feels such an affinity for it.

  18. Mr. Sinclair’s newest post on JSmineset is fascinating.
    Apparently the COMEX will very soon change delivery mechanism and several hundred dollar moves per day are coming.

  19. http://www.i24news.tv/fr/tv/live And for French listeners
     

  20. Hey Sinclair what are the Lottery numbers for the weekend?

  21. “The morale of the story is you cannot make predictions that cause people to lose 20% and 40% of their investment especially when you are one of the world authorities on the subject and not expect people to be upset.”
     
    No one has lost “20% and 40%” of their investment unless they have actually sold anything in the recent lows (and if they did, they were invested in Gold and Silver for the wrong reasons).  People would do well to learn to value their holdings in precious metals in terms of their actual physical possession in ounces or grams at hand, rather than what fiat currency they’re priced in at any given moment (which few people deny is continuously manipulated).  Gold and Silver are for savings, for preparation, and for protection, not for day-trading or get-rich-quick schemes.  It has now become the only means for the common person to guard against theft in the form of inflation and fiat currency debasement.
     
    “In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. … This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists’ tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists’ antagonism toward the gold standard.”
    –Alan Greenspan, Chairman of the US Federal Reserve Board of Governors (1987-2006)
     
    Substitute Silver for Gold, and the quote is just as valid.

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