Guest Post: A Norwegian Carpenter Thanks American Officials for PM Manipulation

gold & silver sold outAverage Americans have debt over their ears they never can repay – and now your government wants to borrow more money, or print more worthless paper dollars? QE1, QE2, QE3, QE4, QE-Bankrupt! Are all of the American officials retards?
And now your leaders manipulate the gold and silver prices (Comex) to keep this stupid scam going a few more weeks or months. Meanwhile, the Wise Man from the East – the Chinese, the Indies, The Russians and the Arabs buy your gold and silver on sale, paying you with worthless dollar bills you have been printing unrestrained. Have you Americans completely lost your mind? Have you become a country of retards? The whole world is laughing of you! We can all see that the former mighty America is bankrupt, and we do not understand that the people let your leaders continue this obvious scam.
Before you had Gangsters, now America is governed by Banksters supported by Washington that scams all its citizens.
I would like to thank your politicians which made it possible for me to purchase 10,000 physical Silver Eagles and 100 Gold Eagles very, very, very cheaply – I even paid with your (very soon) worthless paper dollars – and secured my and my children’s future.

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I was born in Brooklyn in the beginning of the 1950′s, and I grew up in the countryside in Norway. I always have been proud to be an American citizen, but now I am just worried.

Earlier everybody in Europa dreamed about American cars as, Chevrolet Corvette, Camaro, Cougar, Pontiac Firebird , Mustang, Plymouth, Cadillac, Continental etc. etc.
It was the Europeans’ and Norwegians dreams. Many still do.

From 1973 to 1976 I was a carpenter in Norwalk, Connecticut, and to my astonishment European cars were rich people’s prestige cars such as Porsche, Mercedes, BMW and Volvo. Even greater was my astonishment when I saw Americans buy Japanese cars.  I – a simple carpenter from the Norwegian countryside realized that if the Americans continued on this path you would destroy your own proud car industry. I told the Americans that it was like sawing off the branch you are sitting on. But nobody listened to a simple carpenter from Norway. The result we all can see now – America’s pride – Detroit is bankrupt!

I also witnessed President Nixon’s trip to China where he signed the fatal trade agreement with the Chinese. As a result, U.S. companies moved their factories to China – American workers were unemployed – and the idiots started to import American products – manufactured in China – back to the USA?!?! To finance this stupidity they began to borrow money – a lot of money. The result we all can see now – average Americans have debt over your ears you never can repay – and now your government wants to borrow more money, or print more worthless paper dollars? QE1, QE2, QE3, QE4, QE-Bankrupt! Are all of the American officials retards?

And now your leaders manipulate the gold and silver prices (Comex) to keep this stupid scam going a few more weeks or months. Meanwhile, the Wise Man from the East – the Chinese, the Indies, The Russians and the Arabs buy your gold and silver on sale, paying you with worthless dollar bills you unrestrained have been printing. Have you Americans completely lost your mind? Have you become a country of retards? The whole world is laughing of you! We can all see that the former mighty America is bankrupt, and we do not understand that the people let your leaders continue this obvious scam.

Before you had Gangsters, now America is governed by Bangsters supported by Washington that scams all its citizens.

Finally, I would like to thank your politicians which made it possible for me to purchase 10,000 physical Silver Eagles and 100 Gold Eagles very, very, very cheaply – I even paid with your (very soon) worthless paper dollars – and secured my and my children’s future.

Regards an astonished SilverBug in Norway

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    Hey, Norwegian guy; Run for President of the US, you don’t even need a birth certificate, and your wife will get heaps of free vacations at the public expense, you don’t even have to do a good job, and if your centerpiece legislation is a complete failure you will always be able to call your opposition racist … they’re just racist because you’re TOO WHITE … the ultimate get out of jail free card … Damn Norwegiaphobe Conservatives!

  2. Okay, well … Norway’s finances and economy are completely framed up on worthless banknote paper too. Consequently, Norwegian bankers are essentially no different than any others in the world … they provide the Norwegian government and monopoly industrialists their Proprietary Plantation Scrip in collusion to steal their People’s Labor, all held aloft on phony ‘social promises’, the same as all the rest.

    It seems you missed the last notice, so watch this video … THEN … come back to tell us how despicable America is alone, in the tight little package you’ve constructed. We’ve ALL been hoodwinked by ALL our governments,. bar none. It’s great that your eyes are opening, but not yet fully, I venture to say.

    • I love that video, it is a ripper. I have woken a few sheep up with it so it is effective!!!

    • You can now see episode 5 on his website or youtube.

    • I love thate moovee it make Alexi cry. Da

    • Oh, I love to listen to Mike Maloney, Peter Schiff, Andy Hoffman, Bill Murphy,  G. Edward Griffin, Ted Butler, James Turk etc. etc.

      By all means, there are many knuckle heads in the Norwegian government as well – they sold out all the gold they had 10 years ago – and now their large Oil Fund – called The Pension Fund – are buying a lot of expensive stocks that may soon be worthless.

      Norway has 4.9 million inhabitants. The Pension Fund is 5020,000,000,000 Norwegian kroner – or 860.000.000.000 Dollars. This means that every Norwegian has $ 175,000 in assets against every American has $ 54,000 in debt – I’m talking about government assets – not private.

      Norwegian Oil Found:
      US Debt clock:

  3. I think people need to realize that the Bullion of the USA has been hijacked by the one and only House of Rothschild. The fiat system works quite well until the debt load becomes unsustainable (happening right now). Doesn’t matter whether the America people realize the dollar is worthless or not as the first people to loose confidence are the sovereigns and that is already happening. This is FACT. With the House of Rothschild controlling Reuters, AP news, FED, BIS etc. there is no chance in hell for the majority of people to realize the scale and scheme of things happening. The House of Rothschild could give two rats whether the US comes out of this. They are always ahead of the curve as they are the prime architects of this whole system. Look back at the history of the Fed and you realize what they did from the outset. Private bank running the finances of the US government. The FED serves it master and not the American people. Do I need to say more?
    Yes, the rest of the world is running fiat becoz the whole Brenton woods legacy established the USD as the worlds reserve CCY. But this scheme is on its last legs due to the debt load. Last shoe to drop will be when the Saudi’s accept other CCY as payment for oil. Its only a matter of time as the USD is becoming worthless day by day.
    Also, the rest of the world does not want a sudden reset otherwise the current architecture will implode making the transition to the new system very bloody and chaotic. Whether this happens we still dunno as the powers at be will be leaving kicking and screaming. Final bag holders will be the American people as they own the reserve CCY. This is very bad. Get the word out. This is the only way people will get a soft landing in the land of the once free.

    • digi … “The fiat system works” … “when the Saudi’s accept other CCY as payment for oil”
      It seems you missed the above video too … take the time to watch it, maybe it’ll get your mind out of the ‘Rothschild’ septic tank. That’s all a political Kabuki Play designed to distract attention from the core problem which is … the system … which all bankers propagate … legitimized by governments … compelled by monopoly industrialists.

    • Go drink some cool aid if you cannot see the macro picture. He is only describing the architecture in place today. FYI I am a ex-derivatives banker and what Mike is describing is useful, but there is a whole lot more than what he describes.

    • Do you want to rule the world and control it?
      I don’t think it can ever be done.
      The world is a sacred vessel
      and it can not be controlled.
      You will only make it worse if you try.
      It may slip through your fingers and disappear.


    • digi … “you cannot see the macro picture” … “FYI I am a ex-derivatives banker” … “there is a whole lot more”.
      In the late 70s and early 80s, I was an industrial Purchasing Agent overseeing hundreds of millions in goods acquisitions and distributive shipments to corporate operations across America, Later, I was a Stock and Bond Broker for about a decade, then a Business Development Consultant responsible for introducing a key function that yielded a 40% annually compounding growth rate to my client company over a five year period, till management simply didn’t want to grow any larger.

      So, before you … presume … I ‘drink cool aid’, you might first run out this ‘whole lot more’ you claim to exist, so I can assess whether it’s more incisive than what’s gleaned from understanding the core flaws of this fake ‘monetary’ credit-boondoggle you defend.

      Enlighten us, please. Exactly what is this ‘whole lot more’ that you comprehend, which we’re missing?

  4. I’m glad he’s doing well.  We’re doing OK too as we’re buying our PM’s cheap too.  Soon, if you believe everything you read, we’ll be one big happy PM based/backed world economy and all will be well.  How do you like your rice??
    Keep stackin!

    • “How do you like your rice??”
      Two ways:  both cooked, but with either gravy or milk and cinnamon on it… depending on time of day.  :-)

  5. Boy did this posting catch my eye.
    Like this Norwegian carpenter from Brooklyn, my dad was also born in Brooklyn but in the 1920′s.  When the Fed laid the groundwork for the “Great Depression” in 1929 (the Fed’s second depression since their founding on December 23, 1913 – gee we can celebrate soon!), my dad moved to the seaside in Norway near Lista Fjord…his father was an unemployed carpenter from Bayridge, Brooklyn who returned to Norway with his gold-backed US dollars which made him “well off” by Norwegian standards at the time.
    At 17 years old, the outbreak of WWII in Europe had my dad packed-off back to the States (back to Bayridge, Brooklyn) just as the Nazis paid Norway “a visit.”  While in the States, right before enlisting (in the Navy, of course, as a CPO carpenter on plywood decked flat-tops), my dad was also a carpenter in NYC, living in Bayridge, Brooklyn.   I found out years later a family friend also from Post-war Bayridge, Brooklyn was not so lucky and was not sent to the States. He was “enrolled” as impressed/slave labor until he escaped and joined the underground.  His first job in the underground was to help European Jews washing up on Norway’s shores to get across the border to Sweden.  Later he was a spotter for the heavy water convoy.  Lucky, his future wife was packed off for Bayridge, Brooklyn when she was 14 – also as the Nazis paid Norway “a visit.”   
    Bayridge, Brooklyn and Norway had very strong ties dating back to the 1800′s – that is right up until NYC’s braintrust dropped a low income housing development into the community which sent the Scandies packing–off for the suburbs.  (Another diaspora of sorts, although not as grim – but also tied back to the policies of banks and governments.) 
    After the war, my grandparents moved back to Bayridge, Brooklyn (surprise!) and later sold their house in Norway that the Nazis had occupied during the war to a young Norwegian couple (also from Bayridge, Brooklyn), longing to move back to Norway.  (I was very fortunate to get to visit this nice couple in 2000 and I could see why the Nazis used the house as an observation command post, the house had a sweeping view of the North Sea – near Norway’s southern tip.) 
    PS Like my dad, I was born in Bayridge, Brooklyn and learned quite a bit of carpentry from my dad using some of my grandfather’s tools. These tools have survived several trans-Atlantic trips and the Nazis. I too have considered getting Norwegian citizenship to flee another Fed created depression.  (History repeats?)  
    If I do head back, I will be sure take my grandfather’s antique carpentry tools back home with me.  
    Naturally, the lead-in to this story caught my eye immediately and I will bet a tidy sum this Norwegian carpenter was born in…Bayridge, Brooklyn. 

    • Interesting read, thanks.  Expand a bit and you’ll have a novel that could pass as Ken Follett’s work!

      Some give him a hard time but i mean that as a compliment, Ken is not the most eloquent author but he is a fantastic story teller.

    • The concern remains, no what the precious metal market does, much of the world is on a similar path as Germany but it’s still about 1920 before the hyperinflation began.  Have you ever heard of the book “The Road To Serfdom”?  Here’s the 5 minute cliff notes version on Youtube:

    • Wow!!!!! Lista Fjord?  Sweeping view of the North Sea all the way south in Norway.
      Jersey Joe – we might be in family? Is there any way you can contact me? If my suspicion is right  your grandfather lived 1 to 3 miles from my grandfather in Norway.

    • Hey Silverbug
      The Lista connection – would love to compare notes.   
      I should note my grandfather was original from north of the Arctic Circle where he was born.  His family name was Larson but took the name of the farm – Nordgaard, coming through Ellis Island.   
      I have to believe your family knew mine from Lista.  During the war, they had to live with neighbors due to the occupation of their house.   What I can recall of the area, to this day it is lightly populated.  
      I can be reached at

  6. That was a “how to” video on Obamacare.

  7. Cool story, Bro. 

    • Thanks you guys.  (You too Mikeyj)
      That born in Brooklyn moved to Norway thingie… who knows?  We will see.  (I doubt they need carpenters though – I think the country is crawling with them.  :-) 

  8. Jersey  thanks for adding the personal story  Our essayist who wrote this post had to know he would catch from flack. There are many people who have their sites and blogs offshore, very sad and angry over how far their home country has fallen. 
      There are several good themes woven into the essay and subsequent posts that could expanded on from expats. Pollokeeper was one who made his voice clear on these subjects. This is a particularly Anglo-centric site.
      Pat, I can’t get the video open. Can you provide a different link. I think I know the one you are referring to and would like to watch it.
    Hearing from stackers in other countries given this site a richer content.  There are not enough voices from other countries, particularly the eastern world, for us to round out the view of America.  My personal thoughts on how our government and banksters are working their financial terror on we, the people, is well known.  Hearing from others will expand our points of view

    • Thank you Silver 12,000 and I could not agree with you more about offshore voices (including our friends in Canuckland)    Many times people take more notice when someone outside their own country hits them upside-the-head so to speak.  
      This country needs a bucket of icewater dumped on our collective heads to shake some sense into the collective “us”.  Let’s hope that letter with a 1000 economists signing, that Sprott talks about, proves the right H20/ice mix.   But let’s face it – we are up against a huge sound wall in the Marxist/Fascist media complex.  (That’s why “dem der internets” and sites like this are so important.) 

    • here ya go on that link

    • AGXIIK
      Try Mike Maloney’s site here …

    • Joe, I also wish to thank you for taking the time to write out some of your family history and how it relates to our current political and monetary condition… so, THANKS!  :-)
      My Mother’s family emigrated from Germany in the late 1890s but had a few Polish, Ukrainian, and Russian members.  My Dad’s family emigrated to the US from England and Holland in the 1870s and 1880s.  All of them Americanized their names so as to better fit into their new country.  Mom’s family settled in North Dakota, a desolate place if ever there was one… think the moon with air.  lol   Dad’s family emigrated to Missouri, then moved west into Oklahoma, on to California, and finally settled in Oregon.
      My wife’s family emigrated to the US primarily from Sweden, probably in the early 1900s.  They settled in the Willamette Valley and were all cabinet makers.  But she also has ancestors who came from Russia and France.  We’re quite a mix here, with German, English, Swedish, French, Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, and Dutch family members.
      I have always appreciated the care and expertise of northern European farmers.  Whether they be Germans, Danes, Swedes, or Norwegians, in virtually every case, their farms are immaculate with everything as neat, clean, and productive as anyone could want.

  9. Most Americans like myself under the age of 60 were purposely dumbed down so we were not aware of our history or the truth about honest money. We were raised in the credit card world and never knew a dollar that was not the reserve currency of the world. Almost every important thing that I have learned was outside of our “education system” called public schools.
    We were raised and taught to be civil to one another and we thought that when we elected a person to represent us in Washington D.C., that they were looking out for our best interests, so we elected them and went on with our business. Now we find that they have been working for the banks and themselves and could care less about us, We The People.
    We are still trying to use the political system to be heard and we are totally ignored as we watch our leaders run the world’s largest garage/estate sale, selling the jewels out of our safe to the whole world at a great discount. All that can follow this is Tyranny and we have now become subjects to a government which runs outside of The Laws of the Land. Pity us poor fools who are the most armed with weapons but having no understanding or solutions to reverse our captivity and demise.
    The Trojan Horse delivered our ruler and destroyer and even our mighty military can not deliver us from him. He fires our best generals and those who are still left or promoted, simply obey his unconstitutional decrees. We are conquered without a shot being fired but at least we have more television channels than any other nation in history and the beer is still brewing and affordable so life in chains is not all that bad here in the land of Hope and Change.

    • mayeeden
      Something else you weren’t taught in schools is that The American People are our Land’s Supreme Sovereign Authority. Government uses enticements to enter contractual ‘agreements’ with it, but only by fraudulent presentations which intentionally omit all mention and thought of Material Facts … which if known aforehand would send us running in complete rejection of their offers.

      To learn something of this, visit for a wealth of enlightenment.

      Here’s a document I put together more to help re-introduce folks to their Power of Right At Law. It’s a format piece that can be re-configured for a local Town Soviet, as well as any Congressional outrage in defiance against Law or Constitution.

    • @PatFields,
      Yup words sound about right, but you see, “that man with a gun over there, is telling me, I got to be aware!” 

    • @mayeeden – This was all part of the plan.  See Alinsky and Cloward-Piven.  The frog has been boiled.  Welcome to the NWO.

    • Well then the question is why do keep participating in this fraud and by doing so keep legitimizing their game. Just stop going to these stupid elections. If there is no candidate that represents you what are you doing at a voting poll? Do you understand that by showing up at the poll you are consenting to their schemes, frauds, wars, theft and ultimately tyranny at the end.

    • PrometeyBezkrilov … “Just stop going to these stupid elections.”
      Many of us have. In fact, if the American People knew what has been done with the Elective Franchise, most would abandon the process along with us.

      All the States have, by surreptitious (and Treasonous) Constitutional revision, re-qualified their ‘Officers’ and ‘Voters’ as ‘citizens of the United States’. The legal effect (attained by fraudulent mis-representation) has been to populate the district jurisdictions overlaying the States with citizens of the city-state municipality of the District of Columbia, as opposed to their original, ordinary Citizens of the federated Independent States, as was the case when they were initially Constituted.

      “The United States Government is a foreign corporation with respect to a state.” Volume 20: Corpus Juris Secundum, (P 1785: NY re: Merriam 36 N.E. 505 1441 S.Ct. 1973, 41 L. Ed. 287)

      “There are, then, two classes of citizens; one of the United States, and one of the state. One class of citizenship may exist in a person without the other, as in the case of a resident of the District of Columbia”. [Gardina v. Board of Registrars of Jefferson County, 48 So. 788, 790, 791, 160 Ala. 155]

      Now, all countries do this. It isn’t unique to America. A private municipality is formed wherein its governing body is stated above Common Law and it then goes about defining unique citizenry and applying that definition to innocents by trickery. Englishmen have also discovered this and now Canadians and Australians have too. They’re properly litigating this evidence in courts and gaining ground as their numbers increase. I do, and I’m routinely tossed from courts because they otherwise have no Lawful Jurisdiction to proceed against my True Human Entity.

      Here’s an example …

    • WaitingForSilve … “that man with a gun over there”
      For the most part, they KNOW exactly what they’re ‘enforcing’ and what ‘authorities’ they depend on to protect themselves from private prosecution surrounding that ‘enforcement’. (‘Contractual Obligation’ and ‘reasonably presumed Nexus’ to ‘Municipal Jurisdictions’) But, great strides are occuring where folks are properly and thus effectively defining themselves in courts and defeating fraudulently initiated contracts and willfully contrived Nexis.

  10. The main question asked in this story is       WHY DO WE ALLOW IT?
    Live on credit, buy things they can`t really afford.  It`s all a facade. It`s how your life style appears. It`s about the house you live in, it`s about what you drive, it`s about appearance.
    Americans are shallow, as is our government.

    • Really … and when has life for a People of ANY developed civilization been any different?

    • @PatFields
      Define civility. What constitutes this attribute that seems much vaunted? 
      Define developed. This is such a stupid word. Also depends on your paradigm and area your speaking of. 
      You can not speak with authority in such a laconic and terse way. Sweeping statements do not make you the broom.
      Its all a matter of perspective.

    • @PatFields
      It was diffrent in my early life, well it was diffrent in my early life, where I come from.
      People actually had mortgage burning parties as late as the 1960`s. (Debt Freedom).
      People actually carried cash. (Credit Freedom).
      People actually expected thier children to wear clothes handed down.
      People actually were proud of keeping a job or business most of thier lives.(No matter how small it was).
      People actually called thier neighbors thier friends.
      People actually used the kitchen table, instead of facebook.
      America used to be much diffrent.

    • Silver Dollar … “Define civility. What constitutes this attribute that seems much vaunted?”
      History is replete with accounts of Peoples living in generally lavish conditions (pursuing ‘consumerism’), from Mycenaeans, Phoenicians, Romans (many ‘barbarians’ WANTED their advanced lifestyle, but resented the excessive cost imposed), Mayans and Inca to more contemporary reports of Marco Polo describing 14th century common living conditions in China to be inconceivably more refined and elegant than in any area of Medieval Europe. It’s perfectly natural for people to avail themselves of abundance when the condition presents itself. Your point is best taken in context of the manner in which that abundance is brought about. This wholly false foundation yielding false ‘prosperity’ we’re experiencing, is rightly something to rail against and my own voice is in your chorus, shoulder to shoulder … on that count and in that sense.
      Yes, when abundance was frugally maintained, through generations … the productive sources of it were more covetously appreciated and cultivated … communities actively formed local Societies to increasingly refine their shared qualities of life together … it WAS better, I agree you’re absolutely correct to point up.
      Still … is this forum and our instant ‘meeting of minds’ … really … so alien from the old ‘kitchen table’? In some ways, yes … in others no. The full panoply of communicative benefit facilitated by this ‘FaceBook’-Internet phenomenon is still unfolding like the budding era of the European Print Press adoption. That one factor enabled amazingly rapid technological and intellectual leaps ahead in the whole of Europe and Eurasia, yet simultaneously, it enabled huge mountains of bawdy tripe, which to this day still wastes untold zillions of human hours. There’s a saying for that in Gretna (a small community across the river from New Orleans) … ‘It be’s that a way sometime, bro.’
      “I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take the power from them, but to inform them by education.” –Thomas Jefferson
      Which is why I bristle at this too frequent denigration of The People (of ANY country) as ‘stupid sheeple’ and the like. HOWEVER sadly conditioned by the nefarious ‘elites’, they’re SOLELY worthy of our Oaths of Loyalty and Solemn Devotion because we/they are our salvation from devious Machiavellian government tyranny! We MUST keep Faith in their ‘quiet conscience’ and ‘inherent wisdom’ or we abandon all hope to bondage.

  11. Glad to hear a Norwegian carpenter has nearly 400K in liquidity to buy gold and silver. He has more money than most of the people reading this blog and a net worth of more than 95% of the people in this country. Good for him.

    • My thoughts too Bradford.
        Norway is a high tax country.  Acquiring $400,000 in savings after living expenses and taxes is quite an accomplishment.  
      Regardless of one’s country of origin, stacking is a good thing.
      Hopefully the author was able to do some work off the books, like any good business owner heh heh heh
      I haaaaate taxes

    • Any prudent man hates taxes, AG.  Taxes are nothing more than the yoke that governments place upon their subjects to keep them toiling away and serving the needs of government.  This is done supposedly in the name of, “Well, you WANT government and you NEED government, so you MUST pay for government… no matter how stupidly it is run.  Oh, yes, they leave that last part out… but I include it because it IS relevant.  If asked (unlikely), I shall respond with, “Well, no, actually, I do not want any more government ever again”.  I have seen what it can do and reject it on its face.  It is FAR too expensive, FAR too intrusive, and FAR too stupidly run for me to want any more of this “service”.  Yes, it does do a few useful things but most of them could be handled at FAR less cost and with FAR less intrusion into my life by civilian contractors that I can and will fire if they start behaving like the Dickheads in DC… who seem to think that behaving in that way is THEIR right.  It isn’t… and I vote them OUT every chance I get.  Unfortunately, many other of my fellow citizens have bought into the current political paradigm and they continue to vote to keep these bastards in office, no matter how stupidly, incompetently, fiendishly, and dishonestly they continue to run the country.  Sigh…  there really ought to be a bounty on them.  I dream of the day when that will be so.

  12. If interested, RT on the Yuan.  If not, Katie Pilbeam is always easy on the eyes.
    Venture Capital: How Chinese Yuan has overtaken Euro

  13. Wow did he really use the term “physical silver eagles”? I don’t know anyone other than silver hypers that use that term…

  14. I worked with a Finnish Carpenter but when I catch a cold I get phlemish

  15. I love Norway. Great place.

  16. Those Norwegian carpenters are definitely well paid if he can buy all of that stuff (10,000 silver / 100 gold) and with their taxes…that’s a lot of lutefisk.

    • Hey, but you get great Socialized Health Care and Schools and Child Care and … I think even your ass wipe is socialized in Norway. Utopia Now!
      Too bad if you want to do any of those things independent of the Govt approved methodologies because you don’t have any credit left at the end of the day to do anything outside of pay the Govt for the services they mandate that you contribute to… or else.
      Sounds like a big open air prison -no service except plantation approved service- but all the whilst it is not too visibly dictatorial you might even start to think you are part of one big happy utopian family … just don’t decide to break with the family or you will have no other option than self exile behind some other Statist border cage.
      Norwegians are trapped in a mass socialist Stockholm Syndrome experiment; so if you are Norwegian and the Govt starts mandating the regular drinking of Green Cool-Aid … LOOK OUT! … Jim Jones comes to mind.
      Norwegians get a little defensive though when you criticize Norway I have noticed. Apparently the premise that they are one of the only countries in the world that does NOT have a Net National Debt, and that they are actually a Net Creditor of other nations tends to create a superiority complex of sorts. Which is all an illusion just as Pat said above, because their people are trapped in the same Central Bank model Debt Fiat Paradigm that almost every other country is trapped in right now. Every Krone is a DEBT owed to people who created it from nowhere, and if the amount of debt issuance declines then the entire currency system loses inertia and a debt collapse ensues .. the Currency itself IS DEBT … so my advice to Norwegians with a superiority complex would be; WAKE UP, and also good luck when the North Sea Oil and Gas dries up, because your taxes will have to be EVEN HIGHER (shock and awe… can they go any higher?) to cover all of those social programs that politicians would never give up because all of their family political dynasties feed off of the bureaucracies like a cancer in metastasis. Bureaucracy is easy to create but buggery hard to wind back because the political class dig in like ticks. Norwegians aren’t alone though, it’s a global infestation of Statist parasites, and we all need a good pest control strategy.
      Happy Wage Slavery Norway!!!

  17. “…to keep this stupid scam going a few more weeks or months”. I think you are close. My mosaic brain tells me that something is brewing. The so-called elite will be in South Africa next week. They arrive the 10th for a funeral on the 15th? Anyone have a mourners list? This is not normal so many and their entire families will be in attendance. They will be in the southern hemisphere.

    • US President Barack Obama, Francois Hollande of France and UK PM David Cameron will be among those attending Tuesday’s memorial at a Soweto stadium. 59 International leaders, global figures and celebrities will attend. UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, German President Joachim Gauck, EU Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso, Dutch King Willem-Alexander and Crown Prince Felipe of Spain.Three former US presidents, George W Bush, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, will join President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama. Brazil’s President Dilma Rousseff, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and India’s Pranab Mukherjee, the Prince of Wales…
      — U.S. President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama as well as former presidents George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter.

      — U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and his predecessor Kofi Annan.

      — British Prime Minister David Cameron.

      — French President Francois Hollande and his predecessor Nicolas Sarkozy.

      — German President Joachim Gauck.

      — Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and three of his predecessors.

      — Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy and Prince Felipe.

      — Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff and three of her predecessors, including Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.

      — Indian President Pranab Mukherjee.

      — Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott.

      — The Netherlands’ Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans and King Willem-Alexander.

      — Danish Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt.

      — Norwegian Prime Minister Erna Solberg and Crown Prince Haakon.

      — Czech Foreign Minister Jan Kohout.

      — European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso.

      — European Union Council President Herman Van Rompuy.

      — Top Vatican official Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana.

      — Slovak Foreign Minister Miroslav Lajcak.

      — Haiti’s Prime Minister Laurent Lamothe.

      — Nepal’s Foreign Minister Madhav Prasad Ghimire.

      — Sri Lanka’s President Mahinda Rajapaksa.

      — Bangladesh’s President Abdul Hamid.

      — Former Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari and former Irish head of state Mary Robinson as part of the delegation of The Elders, a group of former statesmen which Mandela helped to launch.

      — British entrepreneur Richard Branson and singer Peter Gabriel, who brought the idea of The Elders to Mandela.

    • Wow… with a list of attendees like that, I sure hope that some terrorist does not drive an atomic truck bomb into that stadium and vaporize it.  Whatever WOULD we do with all that political talent gone forever?  Inquiring minds want to know!

  18. Yes I find this site very American Centric (not Anglo centric). Then again, America is a very large place, with a very large economy. Many will rubbish America, but the concepts and ideas that create America, are not to be confused with the evil swine that bastardized the idea and twisted it in such a base manor.
    I do find the anti Communism crap a bit much mind, I think it must be from years of propaganda that has been blasted at you from MSM. And there is nothing wrong with socialism, if it is done correctly, in much the same way that there is nothing wrong with Capitalism, if done correctly.
    There are many different ways to organise a country’s wealth and the mobility of the people in creating wealth for the common good and individual, one thing that does run true with all though, is that corruption breaks all systems, and not all pigs were created equally.
    Another thing that runs true, is that whoever holds the biggest hammer, has the greatest power, at the moment its America, I smell a war coming in the next 20 years.

    • Communism has a VERY ugly face and some of us have seen that face up close.  But, yes, it IS far more than “a bit too much”.  Note that I am not saying that other regimes and systems have not also had some ugliness associated with them, as many of them have.  But the commies are definitely the world champs at abusing their own as well as other peoples.

    • @Ed_B
      Communism also has some very strong ideals, that if incorporated by people who are not degenerate self serving swines works wonderfully…in practice.
      Concepts of wealth and power have been around a long long time. Capitalism only works if the system isn’t rigged in favor of the few over the many. Take serfdom for an example, or the feudal system. Tyranny only works for so long.
      Some similarities in some respects between Far Right Capitalism and Communism, its about human morality more than the system of governance that makes these systems fail.
      It seems pathetic that we argue over what form governance should take rather than how the systems are governed. Lack of morality and the common good seem to be the real problem, be it your Conservative, Liberal, Socialist, Communist or Far Right Capitalist.
        I study systems everyday, some work far more efficiently than others, communism as a system is far more efficient than the concept of markets operating to optimal efficiency. In practice.
      Why do you think China is winning the economic war with America? Efficiency. China is a Company, with one goal, one belief, one idea. America is a large conglomerate with a terribly inefficient paper based memo system. By the time the memo gets handed down to the front line, China has been there, done it, bought the T-shirt.
      Only Answer for America I can think of is isolationism. Closed Market. But, America needs external resources, outside of the land mass they control, therefore , here you are. Part of something bigger, reluctantly, making bargains with the devil everyday, working as a conglomerate with little chiefs.
      So whats Americas solution to the problem that is of inefficiency? The very ideas that give you freedom, may be the tools that make you slaves because of self greed, and short sightedness. 
      Oh and I am not a communist. I’m a pirate.

    • WaitingForSilver … “I do find the anti Communism crap a bit much mind, I think it must be from years of propaganda”
      No, it’s been exhaustively debunked from Bastiat and de Tocqueville very early on, to Mises, Hayak and Rothbard more recently.

      What’s come to be called (properly and accurately) Capitalist Social Order has proven most beneficial to all mankind in both unsurpassed provision of goods to increasing lower strata of society’s members (the very object of automated manufacture competitively seeking greater efficiencies, is to make ever more goods cheaply enough to market into ‘humble’ groups) and expanding general Free Choice by lowering cost of living, yielding more ‘free time’ to enjoy as they please … whether for absorbing useless dreck or self-education to enhance their future prospects.

    • @PatFields
      And here lies the problem. Consumerism is not a liberal paradise, created for the fit and the deserved. Its a disease. Yes there was a point in time where Capitalism did work, automation of goods did allow greater accessibility to goods and services, however there was a tipping point to where the goods and services no longer returned the investment that was required to keep the system working correctly. Its now broken because the consumer model is broke, you can only keep such an over bloated super bubble from exploding for so long. Selling Debt outside of the US has been the only way you as a country could keep your consumer prices low enough to keep the “American Dream” afloat. Oh look, a happy meal isn’t so happy any more. Why? because its fu%king expensive! All that Argentine beef is costing too much for the kiddy winkles.
      Automation was not a product of capitalism. Automation was a product of need. Case in point, Soviet Tanks in the second world war. The greatest mobilization of man power the world has ever seen.
      Consumerism is broken.
      Take the indestructible Fridges build in the 1950′s, or the everlasting Teflon frying pans that now only last a couple of months.
      Consumable goods are now created with an inbuilt lifespan. All so called “durable” goods are now less durable, to artificially keep the consumer tread mill going.
      This makes the whole system a travesty and a mockery. Couple this with the ever dependable notion that consumer choice benefits the many by proliferation of competition (ha!) and you really get the shit storm that is aspirational needs and want of a bloated population, with a finite populous reaping the rewards of the stupid.
       If you honestly think that Capitalism in its current form is fit for purpose then your delusional my friend. A house of cards is a house of cards.
      You can not have a system built on artificial supply and demand. Over hyped consumerism stifles true creativity, as the Capitalist system becomes lazy. Wheres the innovation (not in the US.)
      Its all very well reciting Hayek and Rothbard, but there is a problem. The system has broke. It has been exposed to be a great lie, a deception, built on more lies. 
      The current system is nothing more than an advanced form of Serfdom. The masses work for the elite, never in the history of man kind has there been such a disparity of wealth.
      And what killed America? Avarice. Artificial manipulation of the general population to the act of over consumption.
      Didn’t Reaganomics practically take Hayeks book “Road to Serfdom” and use it for his economic policy? That worked out just swell didn’t it!!!!….never in the history of human gluttony has a society fed itself to such a gluttonous mass of exposed flesh, and now, lets watch the big ol bloated fool explode. “Just one more wafer thin mint!”

    • “Communism also has some very strong ideals, that if incorporated by people who are not degenerate self serving swines works wonderfully…in practice.”
      Yes, it does.  So did Nazi-ism.  Unfortunately, it seems as if the worst kinds of people often have a fatal attraction to the reins of power, no matter what system is involved, and then when they take hold of those reins they become drunk and abusive with that power.  Given that, systems that allow “the maximum leader” types to do virtually anything they want always collapse after much death and suffering have been inflicted upon others.
      “I study systems everyday, some work far more efficiently than others, communism as a system is far more efficient than the concept of markets operating to optimal efficiency. In practice.”
      Perhaps, but efficiency is only one aspect of an economic / social system and probably not the most important one at that.  As you say, morality has to be a huge part of a system if it is to be successful in the longer term.  Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who have either a poor or a non-existent moral compass.  Many of these will go into politics, so having a system that by its very nature limits the power of any one individual can help to dampen this tendency.  The American system has been about as good at this as has any system ever created.  We know that it has its faults but we also know that the comparison here is between it and all other systems and not between it and some nebulous ideal that has never been realized and probably won’t be.  I remain hopeful that humanity will survive its infancy and grow to become an adult species.  If we do, then there will be many changes and almost all of them will be for the best.

      “So whats Americas solution to the problem that is of inefficiency? The very ideas that give you freedom, may be the tools that make you slaves because of self greed, and short sightedness.”
      We shall build robots that are the ultimate in efficiency and allow them to take over the world / replace us inefficient, annoying, messy, loud, and obnoxious human beings.  It really IS for the best, you know.  ;-)
      As to the wonders of China, yes, they have come quite a ways in a few decades.  But this is not a sprint, it is a marathon.  We’ll see how things are going in a few more decades.  Will they also be working on their moral compass while they are so busy being efficient.  One can only hope.

  19. Funny thing, in the past I had given much thought to Communism. It is my perception that this system is outlined in a manner similar to that one might expect if they lived in Jesus’ Kingdom…. With the exception that the Christ is benevolent, and men are malevolent. Due to the inherent corruption of men, this system cannot work. There are too many favors, and skimming off the top. Therefor in the end, all the wealth created through cooperative labor isn’t divided amongst the people, it is instead hoarded by the elite group at the top, who live like kings, while the labouring serfs starve and barely exist at the bottom. Your assumption rings true, corruption IS the broken link in all forms of government, or finance.

    • @Shamus001 , BINGO you nailed it.
      Due to the inherent corruption of men, this system cannot work.”
      Having said THAT, I have to also point out capitalism isn’t working very well these days, either.

    • “Having said THAT, I have to also point out capitalism isn’t working very well these days, either.”
      How do we know?  Capitalism is not what we have today, so I suggest that the cronyism that we do have is not capitalism and is not working very well at all.  It is more than time to end the current BS system and get back to FREE markets… if anyone remembers what they were.

  20. Thanks

  21. “I also witnessed President Nixon’s trip to China where he signed the fatal trade agreement with the Chinese.” It wasn’t Nixon that signed the trade agreement with china. Nixon was laying the ground rules when he was ejected from office. Everything was put on hold during Fords brief term then Jimmy Carter without any further ado, fast tracked, signed sealed and delivered america to the chinese. This guy doesn’t know WTF he is talking about.  I think he is also lying thru his teeth. A carpenter buying 10,000 sae and 100 ge’s? unless this nanny boy has a sugar mamma he is lies in that dept. also. Europeans stand in their own fecal ooze and jump up and down pointing fingers at america/americans, been doing it for ages. You wanna see stupid, meet the average european. They have sold their asses out to radical islamist, caved in to their own fascists banksters/nanny state politicians and PC because they lack the balls to stand up against insanity….Ha, think they are free and clear in this mess? now that shows stupidity……

    • No one remains clean when they start slinging mud.  History shows that there has always been PLENTY of mud to go around.

    • BigTom … “Jimmy Carter without any further ado, fast tracked, signed sealed and delivered america to the chinese.
      I can’t emphasize enough how vital it is that we distinguish America, established by our Declaration of Independence in 1776, from the District of Columbia city state, established by the Act Creating a Government, in 1871.

      “The United States Government is a foreign corporation with respect to a state.” Volume 20: Corpus Juris Secundum, (P 1785: NY re: Merriam 36 N.E. 505 1441 S.Ct. 1973, 41 L. Ed. 287)

      What so many folks mistakenly presume to be ‘America’ is in fact the extended district jurisdictions of that DC city-state … ALONE. By reclaiming our natural existence as entities of God’s (or Nature’s) creation, rather than of statutory construction and holding Lawful Permanent Domicil exclusively under the original, ordinary jurisdictions of our States, we reclaim our Liberties.

      What Carter signed particularly applies to the DC city-state, its extended jurisdictions, its municipal citizens (wherever ‘resident’) and contractors in business with it. THAT’S IT. Not the Independent States operating by leave of their Sovereign Peoples.

      “All codes, rules and regulations are applicable to the government authorities only, not human/Creators in accordance with God’s laws. All codes, rules and regulations are unconstitutional and lacking in due process …” –Rodriques v Ray Donavan (U.S. Department of Labor), 769 F. 2d 1344, 1348 (1985)

  22. They will keep it going as long as congress keeps getting all the kickbacks, insider trading deals, and cushy paychecks…

  23.  EdB 
    You know politicians are coming clean when JPM starts shorting mud

    • Probably true, AG, but if we REALLY want to clean those politicians up, I suggest boiling oil.  It is a terrific solvent and should de-grease them rather handily!  ;-)

  24. Pat Fields   I’m am one of the guilty in terming people ‘sheeple’ having moved outside the realm of consumerist sheeple a few years ago. Well, mostly moved out.
    That knowledge does make for some arrogance on my part.    If most people are capable of independent critical thought, seeking some measure of consumer goods to satisfy their essential needs via the Capitalist System and its Social Order, would it be fair to say that the DC government has coopted the system with mal pricing via free stuff such as SNAP and EBT cards, subsidized health care (leaving people to assume that health care is free and a right), free phones, housing, education and other services that have been taken for granted in the last 2-3 generations.
    The mal intent from This malevolent entity has done a horrible injustice to black people, effectively moving them back to the plantation by the millions since 1960 with free stuff, destruction of what used to be vibrant inner cities, 55,000,000 aborted babies via the nightmare of Planned Parenthood and the soft tyranny of the slave master in his $5,000 suit taking care of his former slaves.
    If people have no idea of the value of anything then would they not value anything including their ability to think for themselves and see what has become of them. Can a person this far down the hill of self respect and self sufficiency have enough years of life to get back to a semblance of normal life.
    It would be the difference between ‘free range’ people  and ‘sheeple’ people, minus the notion that ‘free range’ means a food source.
     A captive animal is a docile animal, subject to the whims of its owners. A person relatively unfettered by government indoctrination and  propaganda would be the former.
    Personally, I don’t need any government telling me what to do. I’m married, nuff said. ;-)
      The latter population represents the vast bulk of we, the people. 
    I am not willing to give up hope that we can be educated, or shocked, back to consciousness, thus I fight every day to get the word out.  Crap—I’m not doing a very good job of it but I will not relent.  Don’t give up on the people either, Pat

  25. AGXIIK … “I am not willing to give up hope that we can be educated, or shocked, back to consciousness”
    Most folks would probably agree that Nixon was a despicable Machiavellian practitioner of politics. However, from time to time these sociopaths revel in the kinds of observations they glean and proclaim them as ‘justifications’ behind their acts (like Rahm Emanuel’s ‘chaos not wasted’ quip). His famously uttered ‘insight’ was that there’s a ‘Silent Majority’ in society which only appears to be ‘asleep’. This was similar to Lincoln’s admonition that one ‘can’t fool all The People all the time’.
    There really is an ‘inherent wisdom’ in society that we dismiss all too readily. Like any bad habit, that pre-disposition takes some concentrated resolve to overcome. I’ve been working at it and I’m very comforted to hear you’ve also begun to break free of it. Sure, it’s a sort of ‘walking out onto the vast open plain’ of trust and faith. But, that transition opens a full compass of intellectual movement and an unbounded horizon of scope. Better, I think.
    Prudence … will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” –Thomas Jefferson

    • Pat, old friend, I can see that you have nailed it once again.  What we are suffering from in the USA is intellectual constipation.  We need something that will well and truly knock the living s**t out of people, wake them up, and get things moving again!  ;-)

    • Ed_B
      My ol’ Dad went through most of his life thinking I never listened to a word he’d said to me. Only later on did he discover how much ‘got through my thick skull’, when I brought up comments he made when I was a ‘knee-high’. One of those was ‘no matter what I say, you’ll never really learn until you experience these things … then … remember what I said.’

      It seems we’re all naturally inclined to act ‘thick skulled’ and rebellious, only giving an appearance of truly ignoring others. Nevertheless, these thoughts and ideas we try to keep alive by sharing with others, sit in the backs of their heads until some experience sparks a realization into existence for them. Trust and faith that the ripples of what we’re confident are worthwhile tenets, fan out much farther and deeper than we often suspect. Our Brother and Sister Fellowmen are worth all our patience and perseverance to suffer their masks of ambivalence. THEY’RE our ‘salvation’ on this plane of existence, not any duplicitous, deceiving politicos.

      And, I have to say again … I wish The Doc and Bull Run would get those wonderful old ‘Coin’ radio buttons back on this forum. You and AGXIIK would already have bursting bags full from me alone.

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