Time To Turn Out The Lights?Have things gotten so bad that it is time to leave the United States for good?  That is a question that a lot of Americans are dealing with these days, and an increasing number of them are choosing to leave the country of their birth permanently.  Some are doing it for tax reasons, some are doing it because they believe the future is brighter elsewhere, and others are doing it because they are very distressed about the direction that America is heading and they don’t see any hope for a turnaround any time soon.  Numerous friends and contacts that regard themselves as “preppers” have decided that the United States is too far gone to recover They have moved their families out of the country and they never plan to return.  As this nation continues to head down the very troubled road that it is currently on, this trend is probably only going to accelerate even more.

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From The Economic Collapse Blog:

In fact, some Americans are even going so far as to renounce their citizenship when they leave.  This represents only a small percentage of those that are leaving the country, but as Bloomberg recently reported, the number of Americans that renounced their citizenship in the second quarter of 2013 was six times larger than the number that renounced their citizenship in the second quarter of last year…

Americans renouncing U.S. citizenship surged sixfold in the second quarter from a year earlier as the government prepares to introduce tougher asset-disclosure rules.

Expatriates giving up their nationality at U.S. embassies climbed to 1,131 in the three months through June from 189 in the year-earlier period, according to Federal Register figures published today.

Renouncing the country of your birth is not an easy thing to do.  From the moment that we come into this world, those of us born in this country are trained to think of ourselves as “Americans”.  The following is an excerpt from a recent article by Simon Black of the Sovereign Man blog

It doesn’t matter where you’re from– the United States, Sweden, New Zealand, or Venezuela… many people all over the world are inculcated from birth with a sense that their country is ‘better’ than all the others.

We grow up with the songs, the flag waving, and the parades until the concept of motherland becomes deeply rooted in our emotional cores.

Not to mention, when so many of our friends and neighbors unquestionably fall in line, it’s a powerful social reinforcement that only strengthens the bond.

We come to view our nationalities rather ironically as a big piece of our core individuality. I am an American. I am a Canadian. I am an Austrian. Instead of– I am a human being.

It has taken decades… centuries even… to reach this point. So the fact that more and more people are making the gut-wrenching decision to ditch their US passports is truly a powerful trend.

Traditionally, the American people have been some of the most patriotic people on the face of the planet.

So why are we now seeing such an increase in the number of people choosing to leave the United States permanently?

Well, the truth is that there are a whole host of reasons why people are losing faith in this country and are deciding to leave…

-The U.S. economy has been steadily declining for many years and that decline now seems to be accelerating.

-We are being taxed into oblivion.

-The quality of the jobs in our economy is rapidly declining.

-The middle class is continually shrinking.

-Poverty is exploding.

-Escalating social decay in our major cities.

-Our culture is rapidly going down the toilet.

-Our health care system has become a complete mess and a giant money making scam.  Obamacare is only going to make things even worse.

-Our politicians are tremendously corrupt, but the same clowns just keep getting sent back to D.C. over and over again.

-Our nation seems to be on a relentless march toward collectivism.

-America is rapidly turning into a “Big Brother” police state that is run by control freaks that seem obsessed with watching, tracking, monitoring and controlling virtually everything that we do.

Of course the list above could go on indefinitely, but hopefully I have made my point.  A whole lot of people out there are absolutely horrified as they watch what is happening to America, and leaving the country for good is increasingly being viewed as a potential option by many.

But as tempting as “going Galt” may seem, please come up with a good plan first.

As one family recently discovered, hopping into a small boat and sailing off into the Pacific Ocean in search of a better life is probably not going to work out too well…

A northern Arizona family that was lost at sea for weeks in an ill-fated attempt to leave the U.S. over what they consider government interference in religion will fly back home Sunday.

Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said Saturday that she and her husband “decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us” when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego for the tiny island nation of Kiribati in May.

But just weeks into their journey, the Gastonguays hit a series of storms that damaged their small boat, leaving them adrift for weeks, unable to make progress. They were eventually picked up by a Venezuelan fishing vessel, transferred to a Japanese cargo ship and taken to Chile where they are resting in a hotel in the port city of San Antonio.

Yes, life in America is definitely going to be extremely challenging in the years ahead, but the grass is not always greener on the other side of the planet either.

There are a whole host of things to consider before you make a permanent move to another country.  The following is an extended excerpt from one of my previous articles


The following are 10 questions to ask yourself before you decide to move to another country…

Do You Speak The Language?  If Not, How Will You Function?

If you do not speak the language of the country that you are moving to, that can create a huge problem.  Just going to the store and buying some food will become a challenge.  Every interaction that you have with anyone in that society will be strained, and your ability to integrate into the culture around you will be greatly limited.

How Will You Make A Living?

Unless you are independently wealthy, you will need to make money.  In a foreign nation, it may be very difficult for you to find a job – especially one that pays as much as you are accustomed to making in the United States.

Will You Be Okay Without Your Family And Friends?

Being thousands of miles away from all of your family and friends can be extremely difficult.  Will you be okay without them?  And it can be difficult to survive in a foreign culture without any kind of a support system.  Sometimes the people that most successfully move out of the country are those that do it as part of a larger group.

Have You Factored In Weather Patterns And Geological Instability?

As the globe becomes increasingly unstable, weather patterns and natural disasters are going to become a bigger factor in deciding where to live.  For example, right now India is suffering through the worst drought that it has experienced in nearly 50 years.  It would be very difficult to thrive in the middle of such an environment.

Many of those that are encouraging people to “escape from America” are pointing to Chile as an ideal place to relocate to.  But there are thousands of significant earthquakes in Chile each year, and the entire nation lies directly along the “Ring of Fire” which is becoming increasingly unstable.  That is something to keep in mind.

What Will You Do For Medical Care?

If you or someone in your family had a serious medical problem in the United States, you would know what to do.  Yes, our health care system is incredibly messed up, but at least you would know that you could get the care that you needed if an emergency arose.  Would the same be true in a foreign nation?

Are You Moving Into A High Crime Area?

Yes, crime is definitely on the rise in the United States.  But in other areas where many preppers are moving to, crime is even worse.  Mexico and certain areas of Central America are two examples of this.  And in many foreign nations, the police are far more corrupt than they generally are in the United States.

In addition, many other nations have far stricter gun laws than the United States does, so your ability to defend your family may be greatly restricted.

So will your family truly be safe in the nation that you plan to take them to?

Are You Prepared For “Culture Shock”?

Moving to another country can be like moving to a different planet.  After all, they don’t call it “culture shock” for nothing.

If you do move to another country, you may quickly find that thousands of little things that you once took for granted in the U.S. are now very different.

And there is a very good chance that many of the “amenities” that you are accustomed to in the U.S. will not be available in a foreign nation and that your standard of living will go down.

So if you are thinking of moving somewhere else, you may want to visit first just to get an idea of what life would be like if you made the move.

What Freedoms and Liberties Will You Lose By Moving?

Yes, our liberties and our freedoms are being rapidly eroded in the United States.  But in many other nations around the world things are much worse.  You may find that there is no such thing as “freedom of speech” or “freedom of religion” in the country that you have decided to move to.

Is There A Possibility That The Country You Plan To Escape To Could Be Involved In A War At Some Point?

We are moving into a time of great geopolitical instability.  If you move right into the middle of a future war zone, you might really regret it.  If you do plan to move, try to find a country that is likely to avoid war for the foreseeable future.

When The Global Economy Collapses, Will You And Your Family Be Okay For Food?

What good will it be to leave the United States if you and your family run out of food?

Today, we are on the verge of a major global food crisis.  Global food reserves are at their lowest level in nearly 40 years, and shifting global weather patterns are certainly not helping things.

And the global elite are rapidly getting more control over the global food supply.  Today, between 75 and 90 percent of all international trade in grain is controlled by just four gigantic multinational food corporations.


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Leaving the United States permanently and setting up a new life in another country can be done, but it isn’t for the faint of heart.  It takes planning, preparation and lots of hard work.

However, there are lots of people that have done it successfully, including quite a number of people that I know personally.

In the end, you have got to make the decision that is right for you and your family.  Don’t let anyone else tell you what to do.

For many, staying in the United States and preparing for the tough years that are coming is the best choice.  For others, getting out of the United States and heading for greener pastures is the right choice.

What about you?

What is your choice?

Please feel free to share your perspective by posting a comment below…

Time To Turn Out The Lights?

    • Those never having held citizenship don’t count as far as this issue is concerned. It specifically mentions renunciation of citizenship, which can’t be done if you don’t have it in the first place. The number may be increasing, but it is still extremely low.

  1. Those people are nuts that are leaving and probably have never been out of the country for an extended period of time. The US is still the best country in the world and if the US falls apart then imagine what the rest of the world is going to look like. Lol

    • I think the myth that the US is the best country is propagated so that the slaves would not run from the plantation. Somebody has to pay the debt back. As you have noticed it is made more and more difficult to leave the US and settle elsewhere. Banks abroad are not willing to deal with US citizens. You probably remember that Soviet citizens could not freely leave the country and come back. If you denounce the US citizenship for economic reasons while living abroad the crooks in charge would not allow you to come back even to burry your parents. More and more the US begins to remind the Soviet Union. Back in the Soviet Union people were also told they lived in the best country the World ever seen. There was no toilet paper or other necessities, but the country was great. I am not trying to poopoo your country, but when I first visited Switzerland, France, Italy I was not really sure why the US is considered the best. I can tell you that you can’t even compare the police state you live in even to Europe. Yeah, maybe some things are better in the States (but not the roads as the myth says), but then again there are some much better things in Europe-food is one of them. You cannot compare Spanish Jamon with only pork and salt in it to an American hamburger with a bunch of preservatives and GMO crap in it. Spanish police despite it’s presence is still friendly and will help you to get around.
      Look, the crooks in charge even created Rural Councils (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/37561) a direct translation from Selsovet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selsoviet . So the Prodrazvyorstka (or food confiscation) is not that far away. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prodrazvyorstka
      That’s why the big role in Rural Councils is allocated to Homeland Security (read Gestapo). From my perspective there is a reason why Federal Reserve is buying mortgage backed securities for 85 billion dollars every month. They are transferring land and property ownership to a small group of people, and when they completely crash your country most of the people who are underwater (or will go underwater) with their mortgages will be relocated to rural areas and will be working on plantations only for food. It is call Kolkhoz or Collective Farms, owned by such odd individuals as Ted Turner for example. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolkhoz.
      Remember what Kissinger said? “There is a need for the New World Order, but it (NWO) is going to have different characteristics in different parts of the world.” I am not sure, looking at the events and facts inside the US, that staying in is the best choice. Some people in 1917 in Russia also decided to stay and even embraced the change (that we can believe in). They perished. Remember, the process of destruction of any society by the elite is not triggered unless the elite is absolutely sure they can achieve their plans, unless they absolutely sure the moral of a society is destroyed, unless they absolutely sure they can control the hungry masses (with Food Stamps as an example).

    • North Korea also claim they are the best country in the world 😉
      In my view there are many places better than the US. I would name Norway, Denmark and Switzerland for example.
      The US for sure has been on top of the world and has the possibility to be there again if things are turned around, but who knows, it could take a couple of decades.
      If the US falls apart it may drag the rest of the world economy with it, but the difference is that the rest of the world is not used to rely on their paper money as world currency – they’ve had to earn it.

    • There not my slaves, I was born and raised in Scotland (other type of slaves), lived in England and Germany and been all over Asia with the US army and in MY OPINION the US Is Best. Keep Stacking

    • @prometeybezkrilov
      Sir, you make some good points, and it is good to have your unique perspective. I know a minister who was a missionary, and he married a woman from russia who had 2 sons. The older is in a top technical university here, but wishes to go back to Russia. It may be a good move for him! However, there are still some good reasons for “natives” to stay. We are not subdued yet, and we still have a fighting chance! Russia has taken nearly 100 years but they have nearly come full circle. If everyone had tried to leave that could have left, they would still be likely worse off than they actually are. I hope your forsight is a bit off, for our sakes. But I appreciate your viewpoint! 

  2. Splitting the scene, like some of the expats in Argentina, Chile (The Casey/Berwick crew) or Singapore, Hong Kong and other presently hospitable climes may find out what’s up with the old Zen Koan.  “People travel to get away from everything and find out they brought allthat stuff with them’  Unless a person really knows what up in relocating, that might be a challenge 

  3. Rural USA is still nice. It is the huge population centers that are turning into slums. We aren’t totally immune from trouble, we do get immigrants who don’t know local laws/customs and get in trouble, meth is prevalent everywhere now too. Meth head here in town tried to break into my observatory. Idiot didn’t realize I was on my deck using my visual scope and I was carrying my pistol. Held him until the town cop came and collected him. His family was encouraged to move shortly after that.

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    @Ben TheWANKER says:

    I am an Australian who has traveled around the world 3 times and lived in different places (Indonesia, Philippines, UAE ). I have an Aunt in Illinois and know they are doing it tough. Australia is a wonderful country, but also an easy hit for TPTB to beat us into submission when the time is right (small population, excellent infrastructure,NSA surveiled). Indonesia would be good with 17000+ islands, but the ‘religion of peace’ poses a problem. Thailand would be good. You want a place in the tropics where it rains often. Land is also cheap, but unlike our crazy governments, they were smart enough to enact that ONLY Indigenous population can own land, so you are looking at a lease deal. I am not a bible basher, but expect the mark on the hand or forehead to be part of the deal to continuing to live in any Western country in the near future.

    • @Ben TheWNANKER: Funny handle! I agree it really is coming to “the Mark” here in the west. I have done some travleing and been some places and found they were not really where I wanted to be. My thoughts about where to go in the event of THE EVENT just takes me around  and around in my thoughts, even with all the info available. For some reason I keep coming back to the idea that maybe LAND isn’t the place to be at all.  Any land. But rather the sea. Thoughts of a big boat one can live on and stay mobile, a step ahead of of the $h!#.   

  5. Mary B  I had a notion you were a generous person.  Letting a meth head go is not always an easy decision.  Helping him leave the country permanently and the hard way was also an option. You did not take it and the person can move on, as can his family. Maybe they will realize the errors of their way.

    • If they have the barest flicker of intelligence remaining in their drug-wrecked minds, maybe they will.  The odds of that do not look good to me, though.  I agree that Mary deserves kudos for not plugging the bastard, though.  I would have been sorely tempted… as would you, AG.  Bullet-in-the-head cures meth-head every single time.  The good news for him is that Mary was there and able to handle the situation, rather than a couple of dobies, pits, or rotties.

    I am tempted to suggest that they are a bunch of spineless wimps who don’t have the guts to stand and fight for their country when it needs them the most.  Instead, they run away and hide.  Actually, I am OK with their decision.  Hope that it works out well for them.  Not having them underfoot here will work out for us, so it seems a win-win for all concerned.

      I think you are overestimating your own bravery. It didn’t need to go that far and “someone” should have stopped the process long time ago. John Birch Society warned you about what was coming. Did YOU do anything? No.
      Scumbags in rubber gloves stick their dirty hands down your wife’s pant and you are still not doing anything. So don’t fool yourself with a fantasy that you are going to resist. You are not. And the reason you are not going to do it is because you are a Minority now. Meth heads, millions of illegals who don’t give a sh$t about your constitution, people on welfare and food stamps-they all are against you. As I mentioned in a post above, the process of destruction and demolition is not triggered unless the demolition crew, aka ruling elite, is absolutely sure they can pull it off. All these military activities on the streets of America are illegal. Did any of the marines refuse to come out and execute the illegal orders that violate the Constitution (and they all sworn on Constitution)? No. They will be given an order to shoot at you and they will. My personal perspective is this. There is no glory to die in this fight. People around the World need your knowledge and understanding and you have to carry the torch of Freedom and Human Rights and KEEP this fire burning. If these evil crooks kill you, and they will, who is going to keep the fire? Those who will come in black uniforms?

    • I suggest to have a remote location ready and keep fighting the information and most importantly the financial war. You probably heard the Walmart reported very poor sales. Divert your money from big store chains to local farmers. Stop buying garbage in s tore that poisons you. Remember, the system requires debt to grow and with this paper fraud they are able to finance Monsanto, Chemtrails, etc. You stop the debt growth and divert the existing currency to a different recipient and we won the battle. But it needs to be done by all of us. And yes, my friend, if it goes to another false flag 911 2.0 they will impose a martial law. What do you think Boston was? And they are not going to confiscate firearms at broad daylight. They will do it in the shadow of night, starting from remote locations with less population moving inwards towards city centres. So you will not be able to put up a fight against a trained SWAT unit. They are going to marginalize those who will attempt to resist, they will probably fake news pieces with bloody scenes to make those people look like schizophrenic monsters (remember Waco and Jennet Reno?).  If you see this happening, then bug out.


  7. Prometey  I agree with you on that score   we live in a small community in Nevada.  City centers are Carson and Reno.  The Nevada ethos is gun supportive.  Other areas—-not so much.  I serious doubt if there are enough swat and other paramilitary fusion center goon squads to take down even a small fraction of the population, particularly well armed citizens.  But one never knows how the average person willl react and whether they will turn on those who resist. 

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