Has WWIII just had its triggering moment, ala the assassination of Austrian Archduke Ferdinand which triggered WWI?

Breaking news from Reuters indicates Syria has just shot down a Turkish F-4 fighter jet.

Turkey happens to be a NATO ally, and Syria happens to be backed by Iran, Russia, and China.
So much for sub $80 oil and credit default swaps as the biggest risk to humanity.

Reuters reports:
(Reuters) – Syria shot down a Turkish warplane over the Mediterranean on Friday, risking a new crisis between Middle Eastern neighbours already at bitter odds over a 16-month-old revolt against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said Syria had admitted it had shot down the plane and apologised, BBC Monitoring reported, citing Turkey’s state news agency Anatolia.


 Al Jazeera however is now reporting that the Turkish PM cannot confirm whether the plane was shot down or simply crashed.
So apparently a Turkish plane is missing so it was simply blamed on Syria?

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    Proverbs1616 says:

    Isaiah 17:1 says

    “The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.”

    Damascus, according to the Encyclopaedia Britannica, is the oldest contually-inhabitted city in the world. This must still occur.

    This is sad for Syrian Christians who are caught between Shiite-forces and Sunni extremists. Syrian Christians and Assyrians (one and the same often times) will suffer most whatever the outcome, I believe.

  2. I posted this in another SD thread:

    This story sounds like a false-flag operation, with a direct historical
    echo of the Gulf of Tonkin incident (a total fabrication).  I’d suggest
    to all to be hyper-skeptical.  Upon further research odds are high it
    will be discovered that regardless of what happened, Syria had nothing
    to do with it.

  3. While this may well be a triggering moment, I think we are still in the prelude.  A Turkish plane being shot down is not enough to trigger an American response.  It may trigger a response from the US such as a blockade, which is still being considered for Iran.  Then we might see a triggering event.

    But we have to ask ourselves: “Do we feel lucky”

     Is there still a cartridge in the chamber or did we fire all 6?  Only Dirty Harry knows for sure.

  4. Proverbs, 

      Its great to know that some people know about the Syriac Christians and Assyrians of the middle east. I happen to be Syrian Orthodox-the indigenous people of Syria. I can tell you that when this war happens the christians of syria will be plundered, murdered, and our churches burnt down. This happened in Iraq after the fall of Sadam. The sad thing about this is that the Sea of Antioch happens to be in damascus and the Monestary of St Ephrem will probably be burnt down if war breaks out. 
       Doc, you think that you could put up a blog space about the silent christian voice in Syria. ?/
  5. He was making reference to the dolphins that caused radar to go off in the Gulf of Tonkin. They were mistaken for torpedoes and in turn kicked off the American involvement in Veit Nam.

  6. I knew that was your post Danno on the front page! ha ha ha. Alway sliced bread, peanut butter & jelly or food in your comments. In fact it’s starting to look like a good idea.

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    Proverbs1616 says:


    I feel for your people, but remember that Jesus told us Christians that if the World hated and persecuted Him, it will do the same to us. The world generally hates Jews and Bible-believing Christians.

    (I know this isn’t silver-related, but just trying to encourage a little here).

    I will remember to pray for Syriac Christians and Assyrian Christians, and you can take courage that some people out there know what you people are facing in Syria and Iraq.

    I know what the Sunni Kurds have been doing to your people after Friday prayers. I know how they get riled up to attack you and the Assyrians (seeing as you’re the closest target on the way to getting the Jews).

    I know what the Lebanese Christians have to face and how they’ve lost their pearl to the Shiites and Sunni militias.

    I know how the Arab Christians of Bethlehem, who made up 80% of the city when the Israelis were in charge, are now a minority at only 20% ever since the PLO took over.

    I know the Copts in Egypt, the secret converts in Saudi Arabia, the converted Shiites in Iran are all suffering.

    While the world worries primarily about their retirement age, Syrians and Assyrians worry about what will come their way after the next islamic Friday prayers.

    Yes ILUVPM’s, there may not be many in this world who know, but I know, some others know, but most importantly my friend, the Lord knows 🙂

    Have a good night. You and your people are not forgotten              تصبح على خير

  8. Danno lol Or you can have what we call a ‘Mechanic’ sandwich, Marmite mixed with any jam between two slices.

    P.S. My personal favorite is a peanut butter and apricot jam sandwich, the peanut butter must be spread as thick as Blythe Masters, one’s teeth must leave a foot print in it.

  9. The Turks despise the Arabs, so this incident is a lot like the 90 lb. weakling kicking sand into the body builder guy’s face.  Turkey is a relatively strong military country.  Turks are tough soldiers and fierce fighters.  If the Syrians want the Turks to get medieval on their asses, they just need to try another suck-head trick like this to see what will happen.  They are liable to get their heads handed to them… gift wrapped.  And no, Turkey is not afraid of Syria or their so-called friends.

  10. NATO
    Member Turkey Says Syrian Jet Take Down Is A Hostile Act

    And so the escalation-cum-provocation-cum false flag is complete. There was a
    time when shooting down a foreign jet over one’s territorial waters was
    considered self-defense. But not when the one doing the defending is perpetual
    media bogeyman Syria, which “unnamed sources say” kills hundreds, nay thousands
    of its own people daily. Of course, the other side to the story is irrelevant:
    the Western-led media is never known to fabricate stories that suit the status
    quo’s power and military industrial complex interests. All that is
    relevant is for the west, aka NATO, aka Hillary Clinton to get an angle
    to push for provocation. She just got it. As we suspected on Friday, there was
    much more than met the eye with the Syrian take down of a Turkey F-4 jet.
    Remember what we said on
    : “The only question remains whether Syria’s act was offensive or
    defensive. Naturally, its version is one of self-defense. Turkey obviously will
    claim it was in its right to be wherever the plane may be, and will say this was
    an act of provocation. Then NATO, read Hillary Clinton, will promptly step in,
    and make this a case in which Turkey was in its right and that Syria committed
    an act of aggression. From there, things will just escalate, and can potentially
    deteriorate to a far more troubling scale, because as we reminded earlier, Syria
    has recently become a major symbol for NATO vs the Russia-China axis.” And sure
    enough, just out from CNN: “Turkey declares jet shoot-down a ‘hostile’

  11. Turkey goes to Nato over plane it says Syria downed in international airspace

    Foreign minister says Ankara will take incident to Nato and dismisses Syria’s claim it did not know plane was Turkish

    Ahmet Davutoglu says the Turkish jet entered Syrian airspace but quickly left, and was then shot down without warning by Syrian forces Photograph: Adem Altan/AFP/Getty Images

    Nato is to meet on Tuesday at Turkey‘s request following the shooting down of one of its warplanes by Syria in what it says was international airspace.

    Turkey’s foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, said Ankara would formally present the incident to its Nato allies to prepare a response under article four of the organisation’s founding treaty.

    The article provides for states to “consult together whenever, in the opinion of any of them, the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the parties is threatened”. It stops short of the explicit mention of possible armed responses cited in article five.

    The Turkish foreign ministry said on Sunday it knows the coordinates of the plane’s wreckage 1,300 metres deep in the Mediterranean sea, but had not found it or the pilots. Turkey has filed an official protest to Syria about shooting down.

    Davutoglu told the state broadcaster TRT on Sunday that the plane had entered Syrian airspace but quickly left when warned by Turkey and was shot down in international airspace several minutes later.

    He said the plane was clearly marked as Turkish, dismissing Syria’s earlier statement that it had not known the plane belonged to Turkey, and that it was shot down over Syrian airspace. He said it was on a training flight to test Turkey’s radar capabilities and had no “covert mission related to Syria”.

    Turkey’s president, Abdullah Gül, said on Saturday that it was “routine” for jets flying at high speeds to violate other countries’ air spaces for short periods of time.

    A statement by the Syrian military said the Turkish plane was flying low 1km off the Syrian coast when it was hit by anti-aircraft fire. The plane fell in Syrian waters seven miles west of the village of Um al-Touyour.

    In a telephone interview with Turkish TV news channel A Haber on Saturday, Syrian foreign ministry spokesman Jihad Makdissi said the incident was “not an attack”.

    “An unidentified object entered our airspace and unfortunately as a result it was brought down. It was understood only later that it was a Turkish plane,” A Haber quoted Makdissi in a translation of the interview. “There was no hostile act against Turkey whatsoever. It was just an act of defence for our sovereignty.”

    The Iranian foreign minister, Ali Akbar Salehi, urged Turkey and Syria late on Saturday to show restraint over the incident, his ministry said.

    In a telephone conversation with Davutoglu, Salehi said he hoped the two sides would “settle the issue peacefully to maintain regional stability”, said a statement on the Iranian foreign ministry’s website.

    The foreign secretary, William Hague, said the “outrageous” act underlined the need for Assad’s regime to go. “My thoughts and sympathies are with the families and friends of the missing Turkish pilots. I have made clear to Foreign Minister Davutoglu the UK’s strong support for the Turkish government at this difficult time,” he said in a statement.

    “The Assad regime should not make the mistake of believing that it can act with impunity. It will be held to account for its behaviour. The UK stands ready to pursue robust action at the United Nations security council.”

    Turkey has been one of the Syrian regime’s most ardent critics over its brutal domestic crackdown and the incident threatens to add a new international dimension to the internal revolt against the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad.

    With the second biggest army in Nato, and 30 years of experience fighting Kurdish rebels, Turkey would be a formidable foe for the Syrian army, which is already struggling to contain the 16-month-old revolt.

    Ankara, which had drawn close to Syria before the uprising against Assad, turned against the Syrian leader when he responded violently to pro-democracy protests inspired by popular upheavals elsewhere in the Arab world. Turkey now gives refuge to the rebel Free Syrian Army on its frontier with Syria.

    The article says they haven’t found the pilots, assuming there were any in the F4 in the first place. This story stinks to high heaven.

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