While we remember those who paid the ultimate price to secure our Freedom today on Memorial Day,
Deagel has posted an update to its forecast for a coming economic collapse of the United States and the resulting  78% “depopulation” of the US that will occur. 

The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States.
The death toll will be horrible.
The American downfall is set to be far worse than the Soviet Union’s one.
A confluence of crisis with a devastating result…

 

Submitted by PM Fund Manager Dave Kranzler, Investment Research Dynamics:

economic dollar collapse

Deagel.com is a military equipment and civil aviation guide website.  I have spent time trying to figure out who is behind iit and whether or not it is legitimate – and  what the purpose of it is.  Certainly it seems legitimate as a catalog of military equipment, the corporations which manufacture the equipment and the Government organizations involved with anything related to the military.

I don’t think it’s a secret to anyone that the world’s population has outgrown the ability of the earth’s natural resources to support the entire mass of humanity.  I bring this up because Deagel has posted an update to its forecast for a coming economic collapse of the United States and the resulting “depopulation” that will occur.   I leave it up to the reader to decide whether or not this is a legitimate forecast from a  legitimate organization.

I do know that I have had a couple people in the last year – people who have been studying this issue for a long time and have had conversations with insiders – tell me that the deep-seated powers that be inside the Department of Defense know that the dollar is going to collapse, which is why there is a big effort to promote the IMF’s SDR as the replacement for the dollar.  The dollar is still the majority currency component and thus would enable the U.S. elitists/bankers to operate as if the dollar is still the reserve currency.  Certainly this is why the U.S. is completely opposed to giving China a voting seat at the IMF.

I have my own opinions.  But, having said that, I have 100% conviction that the U.S. is heading toward a devastating financial and economic collapse that will trigger massive social upheaval and civil unrest.  What just happened in Baltimore is small taste of what that will look like. 

Here’s Deagel’s update, which forecasts a 78% in the U.S. population and more than 50% in the UK, Australia, Sweden, etc:

The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States.
This unseen situation for the States will develop itself in a cascade pattern with unprecedented and devastating effects for the economy. Jobs offshoring will surely end with many American Corporations relocating overseas thus becoming foreign Corporations!!!!

We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe – suffering a similar illness – won’t be relevant. Nevertheless the death toll will be horrible. Take into account that the Soviet Union’s population was poorer than the Americans nowadays or even then. The ex-Soviets suffered during the following struggle in the 1990s with a significant death toll and the loss of national pride.

Might we say “Twice the pride, double the fall”? Nope. The American standard of living is one of the highest, far more than double of the Soviets while having added a services economy that will be gone along with the financial system. When pensioners see their retirement disappear in front of their eyes and there are no servicing jobs you can imagine what is going to happen next.

At least younger people can migrate. Never in human history were so many elders among the population. In past centuries people were lucky to get to their 30s or 40s. The American downfall is set to be far worse than the Soviet Union’s one. A confluence of crisis with a devastating result…

Here’s the link:   Deagel Economic Forecast (scroll down for the text)

My presentation of this material is not an endorsement of the validity of it.  Again, I have my own views on this matter.  While I want to promote alternative views for the reader and the listener (e.g. presenting Bix Weir and John Hodges on the Shadow of Truth), it does not mean I’m necessarily on the same page as these guys.  I will say, however, if just 30% of what some of these alternative views suggest are bona fide, this country and its citizens are screwed.

Eagle

    • For sure the earth can support current population. Haven’t hardly tapped into suburbia to grow food. And not much carpooling yet. And two or more solar panels at every home plus a solar water heater. Have you seen how fat the population is?

      I think the population that can’t support itself is the problem.

    • @AGXIIK

       

      Yep, that’s the definition of a black swan… highly improbable, impossible to predict, but devastating in consequence.  But preppers are used to this sort of thing.  Many of us prep for an uncertain future, only have so many resources, and tend to dedicate what we have in proportion to its probability of occurrence.  While this does not guarantee success, failing to prep could easily guarantee failure.

  1. Wow.  This article takes the cake.  Almost every sentence was garbage.  It should be submitted to the Onion. Just ridiculous!

    Edit: Well, I just read it again.  I wasn’t hard enough on it.  I would not be surprised if the author did not have even a high school diploma. Its so poorly reasoned its almost incoherent.

    • Problem is Brother Ranger ……Sprott & Turk & Schiff & many others are left by the side of the road due to the complete rigging & manipulation by the bankers. They just dont want to admit they are clueless & that the corruption is so deep & insidious they are powerless to do anything about it or advise about it. A banker person I know says unless you are getting out of the US forget about phizzz cause the gov will be coming for your phizzz down the road . He isnt worried cause when TSHTF  he will be on a private jet to the middle east .

      Just my .02 for now

       

    •  He isnt worried cause when TSHTF  he will be on a private jet to the middle east .”

       

      Cool.  While we are worrying about getting enough to eat, he can worry about having his head lopped off and put on a stick by some idiot on a religious binge.  Somehow, that seems fitting.

    • Brother Ed

      He isnt worried about that in the least according to him ( his country has nukes & he thinks they are invincible )  after all they are God’s chosen & are therefore  ” Special” to him the end justifies the means & that is all that matters……. all of us are “expendable” 

    • Brother Yoop…

       

      Message received and understood.  However, reality has a way of seriously intruding on comfortable fantasies such as this banker fellow is now having.  We’ll see how that all pans out.  The arrogance and complete lack of real religious understanding exhibited by this fellow is staggering.

       

      As to phyzz, I ascribe to the idea that, “If they can’t find it, they can’t steal it”.  😉

       

       

  2. Rubbish on so many levels.  The pseudo precision is a giveaway.  The current population is not even known with an accuracy of 1%.  So he indirectly says 22% will live.  Ahem, 22 is a “magic” number, more nonsense.

    So what basically amounts to an accounting issue is supposed to be 3x worse than the Black Plague or the Irish Potato Famine?  Balderdash.  Nothing short of nuclear war would give a 3/4 depopulation.  People without jobs are also people without bills to pay, and plenty of time on their hands.  Freed from rules and regulations, a vacant lot can quickly become a chicken farm or potato patch.  The ex mall security guy will be happy to guard it.  In extremis a former lawyer will be happy to have a meal of rat with acorns or cockroach with palmettos.  If your house is cold, invite a few neighbours to share your bedroom, you won’t freeze.

    The only concession I will make is that economic collapse could kill off 3/4 of the population aged 80+.  Without their medications, they would go downhill fast.  If not longer well enough to offer any tradable goods or services, they are toast.  Having said that, many seniors can still babysit, freeing up the young for the physical work

    • “The only concession I will make is that economic collapse could kill off 3/4 of the population aged 80+.  Without their medications, they would go downhill fast.  If not longer well enough to offer any tradable goods or services, they are toast.”

       

      That they will.  So will anyone who requires regular medication such as those with asthma and diabetes, not to mention those with special dietary needs or food allergies.

      Having said that, many seniors can still babysit, freeing up the young for the physical work

       

      Many seniors can do a lot.  No, they do not have the endurance or strength of most younger folks but there are a lot of valuable tasks that do not require a lot of strength… such as most gardening chores, caring for small farm animals, keeping watch, cleaning weapons, loading magazines, filtering water, keeping a fire going, cleaning clothes or the house, cooking, etc.  Better yet can be their knowledge, training, skills, and life experience.  Quite a few senior men know their way around hand tools, which can be a great benefit in a world with little to no electricity.

  3. Such harsh replies….The gist of the article was about the validity and source data of Deagel. While it is improbable it is very possible. Just an EMP event would give just such an outcome. Some say fear porn. I say better to have considered all things to make better decisions and considerations for making future plans. Without electricity this nation would resemble Mad Max more than what is going on in Baltimore. A people that could no longer afford to heat their homes, keep fuel in their vehicles and food on their tables will not be fear porn but a very harsh reality that once started would be difficult if not impossible to reverse in short order.

    • Agreed.  There will not be any sudden reversal for a very serious structural economic problem that has been decades in the making.  At a minimum, it will take decades of hard work and good decisions to reverse most of the excesses of the past 40 or so years.

  4. The Government wants more people to steal from and control, not less. They will try anything to keep you here.  However, citizens will increasingly be leaving as the country crumbles, it just isn’t easy to pick up and leave so the process will be slow.

  5. This note is to Dave Kranzler.  Why are you showcasing information that you have not vetted enough to be able to endorse or recommend?  And, why would you showcase doom porn that is certainly nothing more than speculation?  I mean, come on man.  Are you running out of legitimate analysis to present?  Bix Weir, while a seemingly nice guy, presents stuff that is just out there.  On cloud 9.  Whats up with that Mr Kranzler?  All over the internet is this doom porn crap.  All fiction.  I thought you were a real fund manager.  If I had my money invested with you I would get it out fast.  You have to remember, people judge you by the company you keep.  Stay earth bound dude.  I thought you were with us down here.  Evidently not.  We all know that an economic disaster is coming.  We are preparing.  Doing the best we can.  We don’t know when its coming, we have been bashed by this pm bear market and now what?  We got Dave Kranzler spreading doom porn and he prefaces it by telling us that we get to decide if its correct or for real, or not?  Are you doing anybody any favors dude?  When is silver going to bottom Mr Kranzler?  That’s what I want to know.

    • Can’t really yell at Dave Kranzler, he didn’t POST the article, he just wrote it.  You need to send your “Thank You” to the Doc.  I see comments here from others pleading for more truth and valid information and less ‘fear porn’ and nonsense articles, but apparently this site just has a different agenda.  IMO, some just skip articles, I.E., the Polny and Organ (just to name a couple) posts used to get quite a few comments, and now, almost none.  Pick your poison(s) and then share your opinion if the mood strikes.  Maybe if they did just try to post truthful and valid information they wouldn’t have anything to post…and that doesn’t sell Au, Ag, or ammo.

  6. These cheap B/S articles assume silver investors are fools and lessen the value of silver on some level. These fear predictors are as corrupt as the bankers and politicians and they would do better to shut their mouths.

  7. I think many in this industry are afflicted with I call

    The Silver Stockholm Syndrome

    They, the names of the industry,  were kidnapped by the riggers and banksters, held hostage, ransomed and now identify with their kidnappers, admiring them, refusing to call them out, even sympathizing with and going over to their side  or at least allowiing them to have free rein.

    • @regaleagle. they ain’t mensch no mo’.

      More along the line of the OG  plank holders from  the Vienna Boyz  Cryer.

      Castrati all,  still looking for a new job.

      Palace-eunuch.com is all full up  so they’re condemned to wander the world like Lazarus and his lamp, looking for an ear to bend.

  8. As far as I know the world already ended in 2012… which means that we’re all in hellven right now right ? I wish I saw through the fear porn sooner… anyways I say something big will happen on 5/18/2015, 6/8/2015 and on 9/13/2015 which is Elul 29 or any date that has a 6 / 6 / 6 combination in it. I predict a S & P 500 + Dow Jones intraday high top-out with a digit sum 24 / 28 on those indices on one of those dates.

  9. It’s not fear porn! How can some people be so short sighted? Simple demographics and economics dictates that a lower US and Western population is inevitable.

    “America in 2025 may also be significantly older. The number of seniors and boomers already exceeded 100 million this past decade.

    Should these trends continue, America in 2025 may have cities that can’t support their aging citizens; transportation infrastructure ill-equipped to meet the needs of young or old, and a gap between rich and poor that could grow with our population.

    We could be living in a less prosperous society. Indeed, our national prosperity in 2025 might depend on whether we master this demographic change and leverage its possibilities in two fundamental ways.”

    http://www.brookings.edu/research/opinions/2010/05/09-demographics-katz

    I further add with no reserve currency whom will take care of these elders? With no industries whom will be able to work. The old will die and the young will leave. Look how many people have given up their citizenship recently.

    Cognitive Dissonance

    • I agree. It is not fear porn. As the living standard declines so will the elderly go with it. By the time we reach full-fledged third world status many of the fattened up sheeple will be dying off. The lifestyles are so unhealthy here that it does not take much mental fortitude to realize what is coming.

    • “I further add with no reserve currency whom will take care of these elders?”

       

      Merely because one is elderly does not mean that they have to be cared for like a hot-house plant.  Many elderly are perfectly capable of caring for themselves and paying their own way.

       

      The reserve currency issue is related but separate.  Losing WRC status will mean that the US$ will be in less demand and therefore of lower value than it is today.  While economists differ on this issue, many say that WRC status adds about 1/3 of the current value to the US$.  So, if WRC status is lost, the dollar will be devalued by 1/3, making everything 1/3 more expensive than now.  This would be a serious blow to the savings and lifestyle of many Americans, particularly those at the lower end of the income strata.

       

      “Look how many people have given up their citizenship recently.”

       

      In many cases, these are people who have made hundreds of millions or billions of dollars that they do not want taxed by the US Gov.  I believe that one of the founders of Facebook did this and for this very reason.  While the number of US citizens doing this is small, the rate of increase is large.  This does not bode well for the future.  Likely this is a result of poorly written tax laws that consider wealth confiscation more important than wealth creation.

       

  10. If the grid stays up, no way that many deaths. Grid out, yes and maybe more than that I bet. The folks on the coasts are ******. Those in the middle farm states will fare much much better. Entitlement states are ****** like Alabama, miss, louisiana.

    • I’m r4cist and I find this bl4ck……just kidding……but I have to say that it’s funny that it wasn’t c3nsor3d like my comment in which I simply pointed out that 0b4m4’s m0th3r was j3w1sh and his fath3r was the c0mmun15t Fr4nk M4rsh4ll D4v1s which means that he’s a bl4ck j3w and not a mu5l1m and certainly not k3ny4n……they would never allow just some 0rd1n4ry bl4ck guy to become a pr351d3nt……

    • “The folks on the coasts are ******. Those in the middle farm states will fare much much better.”

       

      Really?  How so?  Seems to me that living near the coast would be an advantage due to fishing and transportation by boat, not to mention increased rainfall from the ocean air rising over the land.  Anyone living in a big city, whether on the coast or not, would indeed be ******.  lol

       

  11. The US is headed for an economic collapse induced depopulation trend …. 78% is certainly a questionable probability but nonetheless possible when other factors such as: increasing rates of climate change and earth tectonics (earthquakes and volcanoes) and the resulting shock to various ecosystems — then throw in the possibility of anthropomorphic nuclear power plant disasters, disease pandemics, and war, on what others have already noted, an aging population demographic …. and the stage is set for real possibilities.

    • And yet, the bottom line remain unchanged:  no one gets outta this life alive.  Yes, we have some serious problems confronting us but then so does every generation.  We ain’t here for a vacation!  😉

       

    • RedRubber…I know that book. Authors Strauss and Howe make a compelling case that over the course of multiple generations, society repeatedly goes through the same cycle.  And now we have turned from an “unraveling'(Third Turning) into the “crisis” (Forth Turning).  The American Revolution and Civil War were in periods of Forth Turning i.e. times of monumental crisis and war.

    • Indeed Ed, it is not the end of the world and our human species has a remarkable advantage for adapting to crisis over all other species. The point of my comment is that we happen to be living during a period of significant and challenging transitions — and that many people (especially in 1st world societies like the USA) will be shocked into adaptation, many of whom may not survive the shock ending of their surprise “vacation”.

      As for cycles and turning, perhaps there is some underlying enigmatic dynamo behind such cycles … generational memory loss or whatever. But there is enough evidence for those without myopic views or biblical prophecies to see that dark clouds are forming in the near future and people best prepare themselves.

    • “The point of my comment is that we happen to be living during a period of significant and challenging transitions — and that many people (especially in 1st world societies like the USA) will be shocked into adaptation, many of whom may not survive the shock ending of their surprise “vacation”.”

       

      Agreed @Ag patient.  The shock will be amazing, even to those of us who are expecting it, let alone those who are not.  A shock of that level will generate considerable paralysis.  No way to know how long that will last but hunger and thirst are liable to end it pretty quickly.

       

      “But there is enough evidence for those without myopic views or biblical prophecies to see that dark clouds are forming in the near future and people best prepare themselves.”

       

      Indeed.  This entire situation is like being outside just as a storm approaches.  We fell the prickling sensation of electricity in the air combined with that 2-3 degree drop in temp as the wind comes up.  No, we’re not meteorologists but we KNOW that rain is coming.  Not only that but there are some seriously dark clouds forming on the horizon.  All the signs are there for some serious

       

       

  12. Bull. It will never happen.
    Did China’s population collapse with communism ?
    Did India’s polulation collapse with poverty ?
    Did the middle east population collapse with political unrest ?

  13. Well, the US “entitlement” herd most definitely needs to be culled because they are living off of the backs of hard working, over-taxed paying citizens as does the PTB herd as they are overwhelmingly corrupt and spending our taxes dollars like drunken sailors.  I certainly don’t have a death-wish but we need a reset no matter the consequences. Sad to say but true.

    • I object to drunken sailors being compared to the elite scum.  At least the sailors are spending THEIR OWN money and when they run out of it, they stop spending.  :-)

       

      Agree on the entitlement herd, aka “the party of free s**t”.

  14. Silverdoctors no, move your ideology towards China?  Now that’s “Plausible deniability.”

     

    For example:

    http://qz.com/397404/chinas-currency-is-about-to-get-a-huge-global-endorsement/

     

    So keep blowin your fear porn and go back to theUSA Constitution.

    Problem solved.

    ps, why not work with Veterans Today Network and work together because there are a lot of Veterans who would like your Silver + sucker punch, knee slapping website.

  15. pretty simple really

    if not jpm then who is buying

    ask any retail supplier if they’re seeing record sales… they are not

    mr k ignores this basic problem in his obfuscation piece

  16. “I don’t think it’s a secret to anyone that the world’s population has outgrown the ability of the earth’s natural resources to support the entire mass of humanity.”

     

    I beg to differ on that statement. That is only true at this time because the world has not been allowed to develop and utilize alternative and/or renewable energy which could easily allow the planet to keep up with humanity and it’s need for resources. If energy was free to the public, everything else would fall right into line. The planet and the sun provide far more energy than we could ever totally utilize, this has been known since Nicola Tesla. The one single reason we are not already there is because the powers won’t allow it…..period! We are surrounded by non-polluting energy that could certainly raise enough food and resources to fully provide for humanity. The reason silver is controlled is the very same reason energy is controlled….that is to make money for those who do not need any more than they already have.

    Just sayin’     ​​¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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