I recently passed up opportunity to buy Maples off Kijiji – they where cheap (below spot) and seller wanted to sell them ‘tonight’… I’m so new to this I googled ‘fake maple’ and yes, they’re out there so I passed. I know sometimes ppl just need cash – but didn’t feel right so I followed my gut and the old adage ‘if it seems too good to be true it probably is’. I’ll never know if I missed out on a really great deal or if I saved myself a bunch of coin – but as I feel I just don’t have the education to deal safely – I figured I’ll pay the premium and buy from SD/Silver Gold bull or my local coin shop….
Are they all the same year? Just curious if mint maybe has slight variance year to year so a tube of 2012 would be different then a tube of 2009 say?
Here is a utube that might help – basically filing in this one, but he mentions other videos/tests so you maybe able to find something that works (without wrecking your maple if it is real!).
Ok – I did do the magnet test, they all had that slight magnetic feel when passing my HD magnets closely to them (but not full attraction).
Checked the veins on the leaf and they appear to be fine… stem looks centred… There’s that little mark on the queen shoulder.
I am going to invest in a scale as well and check the weight … also will see if I can do that “specific gravity test” on them.
I see a comment from Uglydog about a tool called fisch. It looks interesting… $169 for Maples only or $259 for krugs/ASE/Maples… not sure if I want to shell out for a tool like this at the moment without more research and proof.
Also just become as educated as possible about weights, dimensions, markings, sound, taste…etc. I can usually tell just by the sounding of flipping it with that very resonating high pretty pitch compared to the thud of other metals.
Not that this will help…but Canadian Maples…are PERFECT…without flaw.1989 Maples are a little bit different from todays 9999 fine but only in the portrait of the Queen and .999 purity.Weights should be exact. Any large variation ie more than a gram should make you suspect and PASS on any deal.
Know what you are buying or dont buy… be wary of receipts offered as Bona fides…the Chinese fakers..know no border and they will fake receipts…If you have to do a deal…in haste…do it in a Coinshop so you get a an expert EYE on the transaction. If you have any doubts…DONT BE GREEDY PASS
This discussion should raise some eyebrows among those folks who stack just in case TSHTF and fiat becomes worthless. Your Maples, ASE’s, Pandas, etc. will only have value if the person whom you are selling them to (or trading with) believes they are real.
Another reason to consider stacking circulated ‘Junk Silver.
Also, stay away from any coins that have been encapsulated or graded. The fakers really like these coins because they are permanently sealed and graded which means its impossible to remove and weigh or check with a magnet.
Maybe 90% circulated dimes and quarters are the way to go unless you’re buying from a reputable dealer?
IMO you can do this test by feel before going into exact measurements with more complex tools.
The only thing I have seen so far that gives off a silver-like feel is pure coppper. But that is so much less dense, it can be felt and seen as being off.
The Panda in my video seems to be silver plated, or lead core or sorts. It was part of someone’s collection and I noticed it right away moving the magnet across it. gravit as in the video is a more objective judge.
I’m more confident in the new 2014 Silver Maples, now that they have the micro lines and tiny little etched maple leaf. In fact, I think it would be more difficult now to fake a 2014 Silver Maple than it would be to fake a Silver Eagle.
The micro shapes are against silver plating, I presume?
Lower premium, better avaibalibity, higher grade silver, higher nominal value, harder to counterfeit, not issued by treasury of most evil administration on the place…you need to be pretty darn….let’s say cocky to go for Eagles over Maples.
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